to be sick of all the 'othering' on these boards?

[BishopBrennansArse]

I've just about had enough of this and I'm going to tell you why.

I'm disabled. My three children are disabled.
I am a member of this forum just as much as any other person here. My thoughts are just as relevant as yours. My family experiences are just as relevant as any other poster on this board.

How dare you tell me my parenting experience isn't relevant? Parents like me despite being a relative minority aren't that few around here. We have just as much right to share our experiences on these boards as everyone else, it is an open forum.

So how dare you tell me I can't post about cuts to disability provision, services and benefits. They are just as relevant as the experiences of the next parent. They have a place on this forum just as much as the opinions of others. How dare you tell me I can't mention experiences I've had with my children in public on 'naughty child' threads? When these things ACTUALLY HAPPEN and I'm trying to present an alternative view.

Yet you use phrases like 'SN brigade'. You tell us it's 'not about disability' when actually in real life yes it is no matter how much you might think it shouldn't be.

Undermining experiences I've had and other families like mine is downright ignorant. It's othering and bigoted.

I will defend my family forever.

How dare you.

t is for some families, downgraded. Always about SN, that is. It doesn't fit neatly into one area of life, it's everything.

Morethan I'd call that the straw that broke the camel's back. It's everywhere.

Wouldn't it be better to direct this at the culprits - and perhaps be a little clearer about exactly what you are talking about? Only huge great generalisations are what you are accusing everyone else of while doing the same thing yourself.

Op, I havent seen this not have you provided any evidence of it. If it's happening that's not on.

However you can't go around blaming everyone for a few posters being dick heads. Your post is aggressive and insulting. You can't keep hold of the moral ground treating people how you don't want to be treated

Your OP is aggressive and insulting. Makes you every bit as bad as the unnamed and unknown posters you are railing against.

How dare I what? I don't do any of the things you've mentioned nor hold such views.

Why are you angry with an entire forum? It's an Internet forum with many views and experiences. There are some twats on here just like in real life. I really don't understand your point of view generalising an entire forum with millions of members.

Always about SN, that is. It doesn't fit neatly into one area of life, it's everything. That may be true. Also, sometimes for some people, it's not. And those people are allowed to post too. On the recent thread about 'fussy guest' there are lots of people talking about ASD and food sensitivity; it's interesting and people are learning. However, the guest might just be an annoying cunt. It may very well not be SN related.

Having said that, there are posters who assume that every child who has ASD is 'weird' and every child with ADHD is 'naughty' and that is frustrating.

Treble - shame that has it be confined to certain areas, though. Quite why. Were deemed somehow not worthy of politeness elsewhere I don't know.

It's not a TAAT, well actually maybe it is, hundreds of them and it's getting worse all the time.

Bishop, I'd have to politely disagree. I have seen overwhelming support for additional needs on these boards - side helping of twat sometimes. That is par for the course on a big forum like this though.

Mrs TP I'd agree sometimes people can just be deck heads. It's when you are not able to present a different perspective without being told your opinion int relevant that there is a problem.

And I'm going to let the auto correct fail stand.

Who has told you that you can't post or that your views aren't valid. I've just seen your post on the thread that I'm assuming has prompted you to post this, and no one told you you couldn't post.

An OP stated that her thread wasn't about cuts to disability benefits, which it wasn't, in response to arguements about disability benefits being cut.

People can post whatever they like wherever they like as long as they don't go against the mn rules, but it's nice when people post things that are actually relevant to the discussion.

Crikey.

I think i know where you're coming from. I have posted on that that thread just now, and will copy it below. The first paragraph below is the direct quote from the OP. Perhaps this will make it clearer. It made me furious, it's so condescending.

"Bishop Not true. I have seen threads that clearly say they aren’t talking about disabled people but yet they still pop up! This isn’t even a thread about the cuts – its about entitled people complaining but not willing to improve their situation. And I have already said this does not apply to disabled people. As such, I will not be responding to those comments anymore ; you can refer to my previous post for my opinion on the matter"

*** MY REPLY

God, this really pisses me off. I am a disabled person, please can you explain exactly why I am not allowed to engage on a goady fuckery thread? My views and experiences are just as relevant and deserving of being heard as everybody else. It's just that you don't want to hear them. It's just an arrogant and condescending way of silencing uncomfortable truths. I'll post wherever the hell I want. You can choose not to engage, but you cannot stop me or anyone else from posting.

And yep, hiding behind a namechange on a thread like this is extremely cowardly. You clearly haven't got the bollocks to actually own the goady crap you are posting. I hate the thought that I could be unknowingly engaging with someone who thinks like you on another thread.

At least have the courage of your convictions, OP. You're either too embarrassed to properly own these views under your usual name (and I can see why) or you're being deliberately goady.

Op sounds to be close to breaking point rather than aggressive to me. And over the years its been a significant minority doing as op describes, not just a few bad appled

Well I know it's 'a thing' to do all the things in my OP. It's not specific, it's widespread.

YANBU

You tell us it's 'not about disability' when actually in real life yes it is no matter how much you might think it shouldn't be

Sometimes it isn't, even if you insist it is.
If you're upset/annoyed/offended by people, maybe other people are upset/annoyed/offended by you too. It's not a one way street.

"But yet they still pop up"

It's so dismissive. There was actually a discussion about disability benefits on that thread (PIP criteria, cuts to the Independent Living Fund etc) which actually gave some posters some good info, why do they have to be silenced? I really am sick of this attitude, it's not just that thread, it happens a lot. This is just one snapshot from one thread.

Our experience and opinions surely deserve to be heard just as much as everyone else, yet we get accused of "derailing", being a "SN brigade" etc, yet for us, we are just talking about our life, the same as everyone else here.

Well I don't know your situation but I only had one child as I didn't want to have to rely on Gov help. So right back at you.

Clara, I hear your point about op, but saying "how dare you" four times in one post, and using words like ignorant and bigoted are aggressive imo.

Also saying it's about disability even though I "think it shouldn't be" offends me. Op dosent know what I and others contend with day to day.

Nobody is being silenced. The OP has her own (rude) thread.

NeedAScarf - you are the voice of reason imo

Pony, up your