To agree with this mail article

[fourmeatpies]

It's written by a fellow teacher and is nappy at school related, so those that find these things a touchy subject might not want to check it out.
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2617186/Why-I-blame-middle-class-mothers-six-year-olds-sent-school-nappies-one-teachers-left-change-them.html
Why is it increasing, when will it stop? These subjects really need to be talked about instead of swept under the rug.

I'd really like to see someone sweep the elephant in the room under the carpet. That would take some doing.

Depends if it was an african elephant or an indian one, becuase the ears would be a bit smaller witht he indian elephants, meaning less of it to hide.

I can't find any elephants under carpets - presumably because they are so well hidden :)

OP, you say this article is written by a fellow teacher. What age do you teach?

I have only had 3 children come through my class with toileting issues in 10 years of teaching, none of which were due to poor parenting or just being left so school could potty train.

some of it may be down to lackadaisical parenting, but equally some of it may be to do with more modern ideas.

i will admit DD also trained late, probably because i am a bit dippy-hippy and i firmly believe that allowing a child to train when THEY are ready, has better results and less accidents.

I have worked in nurseries and schools and witnessed the effects of early and forced potty training, which include withholding and constipation problems.

nappies past 3 isn't healthy

This is horseshit (or elephant shit if you will)

As a pp poster says the article displays a loathing of children with developmental delay, the language used about changing children's nappies, and being able to see a bit of nappy poking over the top of his trousers, makes me feel a ball of anger in my stomach. Thank god the teachers, TAs and children at my son's school are more compassionate and inclusive than you or the writer of this article. You truly should be ashamed, and choose a different career.

By the way, just in case anyone is worried about the elephants in the room, I think what we should be up in arms about is that some of them are still in nappies.....disgusting.

You might have a reason to complain if you were changing an elephant.

You would definitely need to reinforce those table legs.

Excellent elephant pic, Misc.

OP what age children do you teach?

Ds1 started school in nappies but it certainly wasn't due to lazy parenting. We had been to the doctors numerous times to be told "he will grow out of it"
We tried every toilet training method known to man, bought a wobl watch, referred to consultAnt, did physio and hydrotherapy due to weak core muscles and finally at nearly 7 years old we cracked it.

Dd however was completely dry day and night before she was 2, she has the same parents so go figure?

Ds2 aged 4 is also still havin accidents although is miles better than ds2 at his age so we are goin with the physio we did with ds1 as he has a similar physiology as ds1 but without any of the aspergers traits that made toilet training a battle

To the OP: I should clarify my earlier post. Although I could well believe there is a problem of kids starting school in nappies, I don't trust the Daily Mail's reporting of anything tbh.

I'm just going to come out and say it, i think it's sickening that 99% of people who have posted in this thread want to support the on going infatilising of our children instead of making them little men and women.

four have you actually bothered to read people's comments?

Well I am updating my spreadsheet, thanks OP.

I think it's sickening that 99% of people who have posted in this thread want to support the on going infatilising of our children instead of making them little men and women.

I think it's sickening that we have only portrayed elephants as being the only animals to have continence trouble.

four you are deluded.
As if I want to infantilise my child. She is embarrassed and fed up about still wetting. And I am fed up of all the extra washing.

Nor do I want her to be a 'little woman', mind. Whatever that means.

Rink, understandable my dear

The majority of posters on this thread have been talking about their children with disabilities,additional needs and medical issues. 'Infantilising...children' is bloody disgusting.

I refuse to be shamed into feeling anything but anger,that there is a teacher out there who feels this way about children.

Rink I understand why you posted what you did. The OP is being goady as fuck and I'm very at a new poster who is suspiciously 'interested' in children with continence needs.