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to ask if anyone has had a psychic reading that was extremely accurate?

646 replies

opheliaria · 09/05/2015 22:27

One that could not be down to cold reading. For example, giving out very specific details such as exact dates, unusual names, basically precise facts that cannot be fished for or guessed and are not vague?

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ssd · 10/05/2015 11:23

compos how can she when she has never met us?

TalkinPeace · 10/05/2015 11:27

When I went to see Derren Brown, DH and I had great fun trying to work out who were his bods in the bar in the interval listening in to people ....
Derren admits do doing it, psychics don't ...

eg the hip one up thread : hip dysplasia is hereditary : once you have recognised that distinctive walk, its a doddle to mention.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 11:28

Fackinell - of course you need a "connection" otherwise you have no cues onto which to base your cold reading! How convenient - the only way you can make predictions is also the only way that charlatans can do it too.

Ophilieria, do you know how Derren Brown performs all his amazing tricks? Do you therefore think he's magic?

KidLorneRoll · 10/05/2015 11:33

"As I mentioned, I don't believe in remote reading, you need a connection with the person you're reding. If I was to try it it would most definitely be guesswork."

Aye, because you can't manipulate the person so easily if you aren't sitting across from people.

Nobody can talk to the dead. Nobody. It's a mixture of learnt skills which anyone can do and positive reinforcement. People who claim otherwise are either lying through their teeth or kidding themselves.

KidLorneRoll · 10/05/2015 11:35

For instance, the oft-given example of "the psychic knew I would have children".

So, so easy to explain. If you've got a woman of a certain age in front of you, who is possibly wearing a ring or has a boyfriend/husband in tow one of the most reliable hits would be "I see children in your future". You might as well get amazed by a psychic predicting you are going to have dinner tomorrow.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 11:38

Yes, but the psychic above predicted daughters. How could they possibly know that? It's 24 carat proof.

ComposHatComesBack · 10/05/2015 11:38

Sorry fack my previous post crossed over with yours.

If you can only read in person and need a connection. I would suspect you are inntutively using cold reading techniques to get info from people and have a tendency to remember the 'hits' and remember the misses. For example I occasionally have dreams that I will be horribly injured in a car crash. I have it on average once every eight weeks. But have never crashed the car after having one. If by some fate of chance I do crash the car on the day after I've had that dream, then I could see it as a premonition ignoring the countless times I've had the dream and not crashed.

fackinell · 10/05/2015 11:47

Thank you, Far.

I have actually been 'tested,'I did readings in a group with only a piece of jewellery or keys belonging to the person. There were maybe fifteen people there. I did three readings and all were spot on. They weren't even in the same room. Could hardly read their body language, could I? One businessman afterwards harassed me for weeks about being my 'agent.'

I also did a reading for a girl and everything I said was wrong. Not married, no children no travel with the armed forces. After 20mins I gave up and apologised and said it was a beautiful ring. She thanked me and said it was her grandmother's. The reading I had given was her late Gran's life. She had missed the point when I asked if it was her own ring.

I have no interest in trying to recreate myself as some kind of iconic figure. People who do things for money or fame are often the charlatans. A very good friend of mine (and medium) is always on at me to join them at charity events (no fee for the mediums) but it's attitudes like these that put me off. I don't want to be 'known' for it as people will walk up to you in the street and find it perfectly acceptable to tell you what they think of you. A bit like some on this thread, actually.

I actually wish I hadn't bothered posting now. For years I've privately believed in spirit and the afterlife. What I've experienced is enough to prove to me that the soul goes on. Something I've never had from religion. That's not to say I don't believe in a higher being, just not the portrayal we are given. But I'd never be so rude as to dismiss my Christian or Muslim friends beliefs.

ComposHatComesBack · 10/05/2015 11:56

So you are saying that your readings are 100% accurate all the time? If so you could hugely enrich yourself by claiming the Randi prize and transform understanding of human existence? But you prefer to perform readings for a tenner with a tube of Pringles thrown in? I'm sorry I can't believe that and you're either kidding us or kidding yourself.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 11:58

You're so concerned about privacy that you approached someone in a nightclub toilet to give her a 'message' from a dead relative?? Did you not consider how inappropriate and unpleasant - never mind fraudulent - that was??

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 12:01

And you can't do remote readings because the person needs to be there but you're able to give an accurate biography from a piece of dead woman's jewellery(but you weren't even able to identify that the biography was for a corpse, not the person in the next room?) Good skillz.

TalkinPeace · 10/05/2015 12:03

EastMids
You remembered the daughters bit because it came true.
The stuff she told you that was bilge you have forgotten.
Its called confirmation bias.

Its exactly how the UKIP policy method works : everybody heard something they agreed with and ignored the bits that did not resonate.

Fackinell
If you are so accurate, why do you not use your skill to help people : if you can 100% certainly predict whether they will have kids, it would save a fortune on NHS IVF fees for example.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 12:08

Talkin Peace, I don't think you can have read the post on the previous page. Two psychics said the poster would have daughters. Not sons, daughters. That's not the kind of claim you can make by chance. It's beyond science.

SmileAndNod · 10/05/2015 12:10

My (generally sensible) friend went recently to a psychic 'party' arranged by one of her workmates. She was told about her recently passed relative, that her children were v bright and will go to Oxbridge, and that she would never struggle for money. Also that she lost a baby (which she did) and that it was a girl. She is utterly convinced by this person and she feels good about what she was told.

However, anyone that knows her knows about the recent bereavement, knows that her children are at grammar / taking the 11+, knows her and her husband's job and so I don't think it takes a giant leap of faith to work out that the psychic could have been told all of this by her colleague and made correct assumptions. However, the psychic didn't mention something quite big that has been going on with her for seven years that only four people in the world know. Strange eh Confused

TalkinPeace · 10/05/2015 12:10

eastmids
they remember being told about daughters
the do not remember the bit that probably said "and a boy as well"

UNLESS you have a tape recording of the whole reading you do not know what was actually said.
That is why "psychics" do not allow anybody to record their readings - as it would show it up as standard cold reading.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 12:12

She might still have "a boy as well." It's miraculous!

frumpet · 10/05/2015 12:12

I go to see someone about every 18 months or so , the same person . I don't really see it as going to see a medium , I go if I am stressed about life and she sort of put's me back on the right track . So I see it more as therapy than woo Grin

MaidOfStars · 10/05/2015 12:13

I have no interest in trying to recreate myself as some kind of iconic figure. People who do things for money or fame are often the charlatans
So you'll withhold the most important scientific advance humanity could hope to see? Do you not think what you can do is important?

It's like me saying: oh yeah, I've solved FTL travel nah, not arsed about sharing it with the world.

fackinell · 10/05/2015 12:14

I'm not claiming to be 100%. I once did a tarot reading in which I'd seen that the man's mother was very ill and they weren't speaking. I could also see an attendance at a funeral. I didn't tell him that but urged him to make up with her,which he did. His mother thrived but a friend of his committed suicide and he played the last post at her funeral. Both things were going to happen but not in the way I thought.

I'm not spot on with dates either, I tend to go with seasons as I get a visual picture of the elements rather than months. So I'll see leaves falling etc.

I no longer do any of this now as I left the area and very few people knewid previously done it. I wasn't treated with disdain by the majority at all but I found it exhausting and stressful. The fear that I would get nothing was awful. It happened once (reading my cousin) and I had no clue as to why. She was convinced she was going to die but I assured her it was just an off day.

As for the comment that it's easy to claim a woman of a certain age will have kids. I wish that was the case, I've lost four and had a shit time relationship wise in the past. It's not as easy to so called cold read, I wouldn't imagine. The thought of that would really worry me, guesswork is not as cut and dried as it probably appears. It's the open questions I can't stand, 'do you have a father or a grandfather in spirit?' All people remember hearing is, ' you have a father in spirit.' Wow!! Not!! Hmm

Anyway, I'm not perfect but nor am I claiming to be.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 12:14

(Sorry, Talkin Peace, I am pulling your leg. My post quoting the original poster was meant to point out that predicting "daughters" is no accomplishment at all!)

MaidOfStars · 10/05/2015 12:16

EastMidsMummy You're making me laugh Grin

MaidOfStars · 10/05/2015 12:16

X-post.

fackinell · 10/05/2015 12:19

I didn't approach someone in a nightclub. She was within earshot of this haranguing woman and I merely said I had something to tell her if she wanted to hear it. She could have said no and walked away. I'm not all psychic Sally or Long Island Medium about it but in very rare occasions I'll be urged to pass on a message to a stranger. It's happened twice.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 12:21

So you did approach her. She didn't approach you at all.

kua · 10/05/2015 12:23

I've never had the inclination to have a reading even for fun.

That said, I lost my mum 5 years ago and was feeling particularly low around 6 months later due to Christmas and a big birthday looming. Also, the initial support from friends had tailed off.

My oldest friend (best friends since 4) had just started working in a shop in another city. She had just finished serving a lady who was just about to leave when she turned back to her and told her that Kua ' s mum was worried about Kua and that she should get in contact asap, of which my friend did.

Neither friend or I have any idea who this person was and years later we still chat about it.