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to ask if anyone has had a psychic reading that was extremely accurate?

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opheliaria · 09/05/2015 22:27

One that could not be down to cold reading. For example, giving out very specific details such as exact dates, unusual names, basically precise facts that cannot be fished for or guessed and are not vague?

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HazleNutt · 10/05/2015 09:34

That's one of their techniques - give some vague statement about hip or stomach problems, and if anybody you know happens to have them in the next decade or so, you will declare the prediction accurate. They probably also said tons of stuff that missed the mark.

teeththief · 10/05/2015 09:35

I had my palm read on a whim about 10 years ago. When she got to the part about future children she said she could see a definite boy and girl but the 3rd line was incomplete. I now have a DS and a DD and my 3rd child was born sleeping at 21 weeks. Possibly a coincidence and I'd forgotten about it until my DM reminded me about it recently.

Another psychic quoted something written on a locket my Nan left me when she died which spooked me a bit.

I still don't know if I believe in it all though!

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opheliaria · 10/05/2015 09:39

Does anyone know of a good, accurate psychic in London? I am desperate for some answers! If so, can they pm me please?

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fackinell · 10/05/2015 10:26

The predictable (and you wouldn't even have to be psychic to predict them) responses are the reasons I don't tell anyone new. I don't believe that you can remotely read someone as you need a connection with them. IMO anyone who says you can is talking bollocks.

As I said, I have had many occurrences, I just gave an example of the first I can remember. I do respect your views that it's a load of crap.

All I can say is I know that I don't make connections up, the details are too random to guess and I would never be as cruel as to hurt people in such a way.

A girl in a club toilet was harassing me for an on the spot reading. I told her I'd be happy to but not that night. There was a girl washing her hands next to us and I said to her that I did want to say something to her before she disappeared back into the club. Her MIL (in spirit) had barged her way in and insisted that I thank her for nursing her through her long decline through cancer. She had been so nasty to this girl and came through to thank her and apologise. She was pretty shocked and said all she had ever wanted was a tiny bit of gratitude from a woman that had made her so miserable with her attitude. I hadn't seen her before.

I also read for a man whose father had gone to London for a holiday (he grew up there) and his son had refused to go with him. He had a heart attack and died on the street, all I could feel was dizziness and fading away whist surrounded by faces and a flashing blue light. He had come through to say not to feel guilty, he'd had a great time there and died in a place he loved. The man sat there accusing his GF of telling me the story but she had never heard it before.

I have never charged ridiculous levels of payment. I'd ask for ten pounds each and provided wine and snacks on the night. There as always the no pay option, I have no interest in ripping people off. I can't abide charlatans and the harm they can do to vulnerable and grieving people.

I don't claim to have a special gift, everyone can 'learn' (or actually relearn as children do this naturally) to tune into spirit. We have all become so desensitised to connecting with our subconscious, it's like fine tuning a radio to find a station.

ComposHatComesBack · 10/05/2015 10:32

It is predictable reaction because the claims are far fetched and if you are going to make claims like this you need to back them up with evidence and you haven't. I am not calling you a crook, although plenty of so called psycics are. I do think you're very misguided. There are rational explanations for your 'gift' cold reading body language, confirmation bias etc. that don't defy every piece of evidence we have for how the world works.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/05/2015 10:46

Any psychic/medium who could genuinely tell a fortune/speak to the dead/whatever is not going to be plying his or her trade in Hull city centre.
I'm not overstating this: a person who could do this would be bigger than Jesus. They would be represent the single biggest shift in knowledge since the dawn of consciousness

Well said

fackinell · 10/05/2015 10:48

Compos, I totally agree that I can't prove this all to you. I'm not the type of person to make up claims but you don't know that. The fact I keep it hidden in RL (unless I'm with like minded people) is that I don't feel I want to defend it to cynics or non believers. The fact that I know it's true is enough to me. I find religion harder to defend than the sole existence of the afterlife and the proof that I personally have. It's a huge comfort to me to know that I'll be going somewhere to rejoin my loved ones after I die. To convince others that what I say is real would be like trying to create my own religion and I'm not interested in indoctrinating people.

TalkinPeace · 10/05/2015 10:52

If you get a good book on cold reading out of the library, all of the amazing stories up thread are easy to explain.
Every last one of them.

AND
Do you have a tape recording of what the reader said to you and you said to them?
Because without that, all of your recollections are likely to be erroneous.

We see what we expect to see and hear what we expect to hear.
Confirmation bias is an amazing thing.
Experienced people watchers can tell a lot about family health in a few seconds.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 10:55

i was told by two separate psychics that I would have two DDs. I did.

Fuck me. Incredible story. What are the odds??

fackinell · 10/05/2015 11:00

I don't own anything on cold reading. Have t read anything either. Fail to see what a girl washing her hands at a sink next to me and minding her own has to do with nursing her MIL through cancer and having her life made a misery by the attitude of this woman.

TBI that statement is far less believable than what I'm saying. And no, I offer them to record but nobody has bothered taking me up on it.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 11:00

I have a message for someone on this thread. Your mother is quite poorly but you don't need to worry, she will make a full recovery. Her recovery will be faster when you fall pregnant later this year. Even though you haven't been trying. Your elderly relative died in a car some time ago (not necessarly a car crash) but wants to tell you they didn't suffer. They hope the cat is OK.

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opheliaria · 10/05/2015 11:04

But how can cold reading explain someone giving an exact date something happened or a unusual name or other very specific facts? I understand there are a lot of frauds who give very vague and easy to predict answers, but what about those that give very very specific details that cannot be due to chance?

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ssd · 10/05/2015 11:04

very funny eastmidsmummy

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 11:06

Please don't mock my psychic abilities. Open your mind.

fackinell · 10/05/2015 11:07

Looking forward to seeing East's cold reading being verified. Especially if she can continue with more detail.

EmeraldThief · 10/05/2015 11:08

Yes, only once.

I went to psychic fair in a really grim pub last year, always been open minded about woo stuff but was a bit more skeptical about psychics. Had a reading in the dark and dusty "snug" of the pub with a very odd looking man which really added to the atmosphere. He told me things that he really couldn't have known about me, if it was all guess work then it was very good guess work.

EastMidsMummy · 10/05/2015 11:10

How about you do a reading for me? What do the spirits say about me?

OhTheDrama · 10/05/2015 11:10

I remember someone I used to work with went to see one and was told that her daughter had or would be having twins. We all had a laugh at how ridiculous it was, her daughter was on her own with 3 kids and no man on the scene. Cut to February this year when her daughter did indeed have twins, this was about 3 years after seeing the psychic. The same person was also told to watch her finances and that she could see her living somewhere with a good view. My colleague went bankrupt and lost her home, she ended up being housed in a block of high rise flats.

I'm on the fence about it it all, I doubt I would ever go and have a reading myself, I'd be too scared.

TalkinPeace · 10/05/2015 11:12

opheliaria
They are not specific. Its confirmation bias based on your reactions.
Unless you have a recording of the session, your memory is not accurate.
They will fish out with lots of vagueness and then home in depending on how you react.
Paul Zenon demonstrates

drudgetrudy · 10/05/2015 11:13

When I was a teenager my Mum used to visit psychics and take me along and yes there were 2 of them I remember who were uncannily accurate (I have posted before about having seen images in a crystal ball myself). The psychics were both extremely poor by the way. One lived in a council house in Atherton and one in a slum clearance type terrace in Leigh, Lancashire.
I do not have an explanation but it was strange. You can believe me or not but I am being truthful.
I saw another psychic about 5 years ago and he was extremely accurate but he had an address so I do suspect internet research.
I understand the cynicism but you don't half put it across rudely!

fackinell · 10/05/2015 11:13

As I mentioned, I don't believe in remote reading, you need a connection with the person you're reding. If I was to try it it would most definitely be guesswork.

FarFromAnyRoad · 10/05/2015 11:14

I don't think it's ok to poohpooh the likes of fackinell. If you don't believe - and I'm so on the fence the splinters in my arse have splinters in their arses! - then just say so, but don't be so bloody rude to someone because of what they believe.

MaidOfStars · 10/05/2015 11:14

Me, upthread: Any psychic/medium who could genuinely tell a fortune/speak to the dead/whatever....They would be represent the single biggest shift in knowledge since the dawn of consciousness. They would, I think, become the most important person who ever existed

fackinell: To convince others that what I say is real would be like trying to create my own religion and I'm not interested in indoctrinating people.

Aren't you interested in moving humanity forward, shifting us into an age of enlightenment? You are claiming to be able to do something that would make Einstein's scientific achievements pale into insignificance. I don't understand why you'd withhold? I appreciate that you might not want fame and fortune, but don't you have an obligation to the world to share this?

I'm not being facetious, or hyperbolic. If dead people talk to you, you could save so much heartache, so much fear, billions of people dying in terror, you have the power to stop this. Isn't it a moral imperative?

MaidOfStars · 10/05/2015 11:16

(sorry, fackinell, should have bolded your statement too, not just my own!)

ComposHatComesBack · 10/05/2015 11:19

fack if your abilities are not dependent on body language, cold reading and other well known techniques then there should be no obstacle to you should be able to perform an accurate reading of anyone on this thread.

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