to ask if anyone has had a psychic reading that was extremely accurate?

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One that could not be down to cold reading. For example, giving out very specific details such as exact dates, unusual names, basically precise facts that cannot be fished for or guessed and are not vague?

It'sonlysubterfuge, people will get comfort from where they choose. But comfort doesn't equate to what's right. Psychics claim the can talk to the dead. No they can't. So anyone claiming that they can is basing the comfort they offer, often to the vulnerable or bereaved, on the basis of lies. I don't think that's right.

I haven't once said I have special powers. I actually said that anyone can do it. It's something (I believe) that we are born with and lose. Children don't challenge what they see and hear, they are instinctive. Our rational minds begin to take over and tell us that what we see and hear can't possibly exist based on the science we are taught.

THere is also good money to be made proving your skills to these people
www.koestler-parapsychology.psy.ed.ac.uk/index.html

Believe what you want, fack, but there is no evidence for any of it. We are all born with psychic powers and lose them as children, do we? What possible evidence do you have for that?

Great links, thank you. I'll have a read.

What about the link to the proof that the dead stay dead? I'd genuinely be interested in the study. Not sure where that would leave the likes of me then. Maybe I'm a mind reader and should have a change of direction.

I said IMO, do you require proof of my opinion?

You can't try and disguise a matter of fact inside an opinion and expect not to be challenged on it ("In my opinion, there's no such thing as gravity.")

The "study" that proves that the dead stay dead is called the study of biology. There's lots of it about. Feel free to Google.

But comfort doesn't equate to what's right.

I don't know if I believe, I don't think I do.

What I believe though is that if a bereaved person finds comfort in any way they want then it's not my place, or indeed anyone else place to tell them otherwise.
For some people it's psychics, for other it's religion.

Why are you to tell them what's right and what's wrong? Very arrogant statement.

fack I'm a little confused.

Are you saying you believe you have psychic powers (but accept that others may not share that belief) or are you saying that you can demonstrate psychic powers?

eastmids How come you don't do the same with the Church? People are following a set of rules that God told someone to write down. How is that any different? There is no scientific proof that God exists and people pay millions to the various churches, way more than people who pay physics. The Church often takes advantage of people who are vulnerable, why not take them on? I'm speaking of Christian churches, which is what I am most familiar with. How many homosexual people have been hurt because the Lord writes that homosexuals are bad? How many wars have there been? Are physics really that bad?

Up next, World War III, the rational scientific community against physics who just want to tell them their loved ones are okay. Millions will die for their cause....

So OtilliavonBCup, you don't think it's right to ever question the veracity of psychics or you don't think it's right to tell bereaved people they're wrong to seek news from the dead?

Itsonlysubterfuge, I don't find any philosophical difference between Christianity or any other "woo".

It is one thing to have a discussion and debate, and hold a differing point of view. But to pile in on one poster and pick them apart? Not on.

fackinell owes nothing to the world or anyone in it.

I have never had a reading. My general thoughts on it is that it is just a very intuitive person reading body language and making vague enough statements that could mean anything. But I am also really interested in hearing from the likes of fackinell and listening to another side of the story. Perhaps I am just not so arrogant as to believe I am right or that modern science is right. We still have a lot to learn.

Whatever side of this debate we fall on however, we should all be respectful of each other.

I would never dream of telling someone who's lost a loved one how to grieve. If they think they want to try and talk to the dead, so be it.

Besides they are perfectly well equipped to realise a psychic is a fake one, people do have their own brain, you know.

Sometimes this too helps with the grieving process.

I agree. But does that preclude questioning the veracity of psychics at other times?

Itsonly, I agree with you completely. If the bible was written in current times then Mary would be a philandering so and so, Moses would probably be sectioned and King Herod would most likely be taking over as leader of UKIP Yet thousands pour money in in spite of scandals such as paedophelia, corruption and that old chestnut, no proof.

I don't believe I am psychic, I believe that I can tune into feeling, hearing and seeing spirit through channelling my energies and using tools of divination. I'm not a walking miracle, I'm a person who likes to try and bring comfort, give hope and calm fears. I make no profit from any of this (other than my short time of doing professional readings to cover the fact it was my job) and offered immediate non payment if there is any doubt of my credibility. What a nasty piece of work, huh?

Thanks, Sliceofsoup. Fantastic nn, that's when you know it's a good soup haha.

I don't know, but if someone finds comfort in them i'm definitely not going to argue.

Whether it is real or not I do not know. But I actually think if people choose to pay to see a psychic then in a way they are paying for a service which is to hear what they want to hear, whether it is "real" or not. As long as they are adults with the responsibility to make the choice to pay someone for such a service, I have no problem with it. If it makes people feel better, I also have no problem with it.

bcup in the immediate aftermath of someone dying it might bring someone comfort to tip a bottle of gin down their neck every night to blot out the pain. But it won't help them grieve and move on. Likewise paying a fraudster to tellstell them what them fairy stories about their dead loved one doesn't help them to move on and accept the loss.

It is very much like a therapy service but can very much be exploited in the wrong hands. That's the only issue I have.

One of my instances (which will no doubt be torn apart shortly) was when a grandmother came to me as I was 'opening up' in a meditation. She said her granddaughter was 3 in a line of five, well built, blonde curls and I'd hear her before I saw her (I did.)

She said in spite of her demeanour she was actually in a very bad place and thinking of killing herself. Awkward I was very cautious with this but eventually said it like it was and she broke her heart. I was with the woman for over an hour while her concerned friends were next door (one even knocked to see if she was ok.) I made her promise to see the doctor, I never knew her or saw her again but I often wonder if she's all right. I asked her to mention it to her friends but said that I would respect her privacy.

Now I know I'm going to be slated for saying that but if, for arguments sake that this was all a load of bollocks then at the very least she (hopefully) asked for help.

I hadn't even see the woman so clearly wasn't cold reading her when the contact came through (she also looked exactly like her Gran.) She was bright and bubbly (smiling mask depression I believe they call it) and I KNOW I did not make it up in my head.

I'm not dragging anyone to their local psychic but I'm won't be stopping them either, the same way I won't stop them from going to church.

I have adopted the bottle of gin approach for myself, but what someone else wants to do is their own business.

I am fascinated with fackinells experiences and abilities. I would like to ask fackinell about a couple of things.

Spirits have messages sometimes for loved ones to bring comfort it seems but do they ever bring information about the future? Or is this information brought to you in another way?

I am asking this as I enjoy the idea of a reading because I want to know about the coming highlights (!) but I don't think that my passed on relatives know this or would even want to tell me.