To think this woman is at best misguided and at worst disgusting?

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Will try to be brief.

I was introduced to a friend of a friend who is ebf her DS (about 10 weeks) and it came up in conversation that she drinks a bottle of wine in one evening once / twice a week. She was unashamed but made it clear she didn't neck it back (drinks it over the course 4-5 hours)

Once I picked my jaw up off the floor the conversation had moved on but I am still thinking about it days later.

I like a drink, can happily open a bottle and finish it the same evening [over the course of a good few hours, like the lady in question]. I had a glass of champers when 8 months pregnant so I am certainly not adverse to the notion of drinking / pregnancy / BF'ing.

AIBU to find this woman shocking though?

To not drip feed woman is a medical professional not trained in UK and currently a SAHP here, her husband is a Dr, she is not English [culturally I assume this may be relevant as maybe the info is different to here?], and she did this with her first baby who is now 5 and perfectly fine.

from the NHS re drinking while breastfeeding

Moderation is the key. Drinking any more than a couple of units at a time can affect your baby's development and reduce your milk supply. Small amounts of alcohol pass into breast milk, making it smell different, which may affect your baby's feeding, sleeping or digestion. To be on the safe side, some women choose to avoid alcohol altogether while they're breastfeeding.

Why WOULD she? Why?

I was a little with your strikethroughs too, OP.

It's a friend of a friend. She's not disgusting.

I'd move on from it.

As NoArmani says... I used to drink while bf - the alcohol wouldn't have got to the milk that quickly.

Stop being so judgey.

Oh and I do know how she is feeding as someone else asked, she said that sometimes she feeds him with a glass of red in hand!!

I bet none of you would defend the woman if she were smoking around the baby.

Oh, but she's foreign

Baby will be getting very very little alcohol, if any, if she times it right.

I wouldn't drink that quantity (I always use the not OK to drive not OK to breastfeed rule) and I if someone asked my advice I'd tell them it was too much to drink while breastfeeding on the other hand I don't think it's sufficiently bad to warrant getting involved in.

I thought the fact she was foreign was relevant as it may be a cultural thing. Also her medical training (I am sure she knows her stuff) wasn't in the UK and guidelines may differ.

Oh and it's good to see so many people are concerned about my use of strikeout

YABU

The amount of alcohol that passes into the milk is tiny.
I researched this a lot when I was BF.
It's completely different to when pregnant and the baby is "sharing" your blood. The milk will have the same alcohol content as your blood ie sod all.

So leave her alone. Given that she's a HCP didn't you think maybe she would know what she was doing.

Perfectly fine as long as she is not drunk in charge of an infant, baby will hardly get any alcohol through the milk!

Not sure why you think it's appalling, is it because she is breastfeeding or in charge of a baby? Would this thread exist if she was artificially feeding?

There is proof of harm from smoking around a baby. There is no proof of harm with drinking and BF. Even the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Drugs says it's ok and America in general is a lot more harsh about women drinking in pregnancy than the UK and Europe

Also at no point have I said I wanted to get involved.

I am asking if I am BU to find it shocking.

The concerns around drinking while BF are more to do with falling asleep / not waking at night to see to it / dropping it etc.

If she's not falling down drunk then really I'd keep your thoughts to yourself.

Springtime from your link:
Alcohol passes freely into mother's milk and has been found to peak about 30 to 60 minutes after consumption, 60 to 90 minutes when taken with food.

If she's drinking while feeding, it won't have had time to affect her milk, especially as she's probably had dinner.

You must either be exhausted or have a surfeit of emotional energy.

Save your for Yazidi girls being raped to death by IS, save it for refugees being drowned, save it for something worthwhile. What you're doing is judging OP, it's not an attractive trait but neither is it illegal. YABU to find it shocking, you are also being nosy and judgemental.

Oh right.

YABU.

Goodness me, I had no idea this was so controversial. I have breastfeeding constantly for the last three years, and still drinking, though not getting drunk, and I have two gorgeous, healthy, clever children. It never occurred to me that anyone would be so appalled by it.

NameyChangey: Why WOULD she? Why?

Oh because she's a total monster obviously. Why does anybody drink? Grow up and read some of the research other posters have referred to.

Or chuck her in jail along with all the pregnant cheese and pate eaters, you know you want to.

Drunk in charge of a baby. Great

Posters on here seem to be very defensive about drinking alcohol, as long as it's wine

What a lot of mis-informedjudging on this thread.

The amount of alcohol in your milk when drinking is about the same as the amount in your blood. I.e. very small indeed.

You would not be able to get drunk from drinking the blood of a drunk person.

Babies do not get drunk from breastfeeding milk.

The amount of alcohol IIRC in your breastfeeding milk when you're drinking is in the region of 0.01%. About the same as orange juice - did you know orange juice can be mildly alcoholic? Probably not, as it's so low as to be insignificant, as is the level or alcohol on breastfeeding milk.

The risk to babies from mothers drinking is from the mother being drunk and incapable, and if she was spacing them out and eating then perhaps she was fine - perhaps not. This is the issue, whether breastfeeding of formula feeding.

OP YABU.

Also the milk is the same strength as blood alcohol level ie it has passed through the woman's system and is diluted by the amount of blook in her body + her body is constantly working to reduce that level. Then the baby drinks the (extremely non alcoholic) milk which is then diluted by the baby's blood.

It is not the same as feeding the baby Carling, nor is it the same as drinking while pregnant.