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AIBU to be uncomfortable with friends getting naked on holiday??

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Notlookingforwardtothis · 22/04/2015 09:01

We're due to go to Spain in June with another family to a shared villa with a pool. Both families have 2 dd, roughly aged 12 and 14. The other day my friend mentioned that she and her husband like to sunbathe and swim naked when on holiday. I'm sure my horrified face gave away my reaction to that comment! AIBU to ask that they wear swimsuits around the pool area?

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Notlookingforwardtothis · 23/04/2015 20:32

Sparkling the plan is still to go. The kids are all really looking forward to it. My friend really wouldn't like to think that anyone would be uncomfortable so it'll be swimsuits all round. Mind you, if we ever go away with them again, I'll make sure it's a skiing holiday and I won't complain at all if they want to get naked Wink

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MarianneSolong · 23/04/2015 20:38

I think when you holiday with friends there are always differences. When people get up, what they eat, how much they like to do. It's just that one family has done nude swimming/sunbathing and the other hasn't.

I'm sure you will all have a lovely holiday.

Sparklingbrook · 23/04/2015 20:41

Naked skiing-yes totally normal, those ski suits are sooo restrictive. Grin

Good luck Not. I hope they stick to the swimsuits.

Hulababy · 23/04/2015 20:55

No issues with nakedness in my own home with immediate family but I really don't need to see my friends naked whilst we are sat round the pool chatting and drinking on holiday. It's just not necessary surely?!

And yes, 13y dd would not be impressed. She would feel embarrassed , as most teenagers I know would. She definitely wouldn't 'love it' for herself, not in front of friends and friends parents! I don't think that makes me or did a prude. It's just not the norm for most families here, that's all.

WhoreGasm · 23/04/2015 21:23

sparkling no bloke alive, no matter how hardened a nudist, is going to want people viewing his todger in sub zero temperatures Grin

Sparklingbrook · 23/04/2015 21:35

Yes, frozen todger on a hardened naked skier. Grin

goodnessgraciousgouda · 23/04/2015 21:48

Look, for everyone getting up in arms about how everyone who thinks this is inappropriate must be "prudes", maybe we can get something straight.

The naked body might be "natural", yet, for some reason, we still have laws about not being naked in public. We don't let people stroll around starkers in the streets.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with this family choosing to parade around naked either in private, in their own home/lands or in specific nudist areas.

It is absolutely and totally unacceptable to suddenly announce - after a holiday has been booked - ESPECIALLY when there are teenage children around - "oh by the way, we like to stroll around naked - that's okay, right?".

That isn't a social norm - it's not wrong, but it is wrong to expect others to turn around and say "oh yea, sure".

Japan has all their lovely onsen, which require total nudity, with absolutely zero privacy. Despite that, nudity outside of the onsen is strictly prohibited.

You don't have to associate the body as something shameful, whilst saying that it isn't appropriate to be naked in many circumstances.

Rainbunny · 23/04/2015 22:00

Goodnessgracious - Your mention of onsens took me back to my time in Japan. I loved going to onsens but I had to get used to being an object of curiosity amongst my fellow naked bathers. I always imagined they were comparing me to pork being cooked as I turned progressively pinker and pinker the longer I stayed in lol! Strangely enough, I found I got used to being covertly stared at very quickly and ceased to care.

IceBeing · 23/04/2015 22:44

There's nothing particularly wrong with being overwhelmed by peer pressure into believing that naked bodies shouldn't be seen, it is part of the human condition to seek the safety of the crowd and we all do it all of the time. Just have the grace to accept that that is all it is and there isn't actually anything wrong with public nudity than that it isn't currently in fashion.

Meanwhile, I'm wondering if you can get bikinis with nipples painted on in the right places....like those BF hats for babies that look like boobs....

IceBeing · 23/04/2015 22:45

Oh you can...of course you can!

Sallyingforth · 23/04/2015 23:24

The naked body might be "natural", yet, for some reason, we still have laws about not being naked in public.

WRONG!

It is NOT illegal to be naked in public, unless with a deliberate intention to offend - which has to proven by the 'offended'.
I have sunbathed naked on many beaches in the UK - avoiding the busy ones to get some peace and quiet - and have never been challenged or arrested. I shall continue to do so.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8235959.stm

MarianneSolong · 24/04/2015 07:23

My mother's German and traditionally they are more comfortable about naturism.

Swimming naked is very comfortable and pleasurable as is nude sunbathing - where you don't end up with ugly non-tanned areas of your body. As many people have said t's not to do with sexual display or intimidation.

I think that children - particularly adolescents do get uncomfortable about the nudity of the older generation, and this has to be acknowledged. My own daughter at 10 wasn't very at ease when we went to a nudist beach at Corfu. She felt conspicuous being the only person in a swimming costume, but certainly wasn't going to get rid of it. However, I do think there's a positive in them sometimes being around such situations - simply because on TV, film, porn sites etc, they get a a very unrealistic view of the human body.

Probably nude beaches are 'better' in that way, because there's less focus on the particular nudity of one's parents?

Sparklingbrook · 24/04/2015 07:24

'ugly non tanned areas' that will be my whole body then. Grin I don't do sunbathing, it's not good for you.

Pumpkinpositive · 24/04/2015 07:48

It is NOT illegal to be naked in public, unless with a deliberate intention to offend - which has to proven by the 'offended'.

What crime is the Naked Rambler constantly in jail for then?

Sparklingbrook · 24/04/2015 08:12

I have no idea of the legalities of public nudity, nor am I that interested. There are lots of things that aren't illegal but it doesn't mean you should do them......

I am sure if I did the school run naked this morning, followed by a trip to Asda it would not go well.

ivykaty44 · 24/04/2015 08:18

It is sad that some people associate nakedness with sex and don't realise that the two are not bound together. Nakedness is not creepy or sinister.

The op's friend has mentioned going naked before the holiday and therefore given the op chance to state her objections. They didn't rock up at the villa on the first day naked.

I find airbrushed bodies adnormal not naked bodies on holiday

Pyjamaschocolateandwine · 24/04/2015 08:20

Dirty bastards!

Sparklingbrook · 24/04/2015 08:21
Confused
Pyjamaschocolateandwine · 24/04/2015 08:21

ivy a bloke showing his knob to young teenage girls is the epitome of creepy and sinister. The wife ditto.

IhavenevermetAnthonyHead · 24/04/2015 08:24

So she expects your young teenaged DDs to see her husband naked and is wondering/hoping that you and your husband might like to get your bits out in front of her DDs so you can all be cool with it together? Confused

Fucking weird and inappropriate. I'd be looking at the cancellation policy.

ivykaty44 · 24/04/2015 08:28

Pyjamas, it is your terminology that is gross and what changes a naked body into something derogatory.

Pyjamaschocolateandwine · 24/04/2015 08:34

ivy so you think it's totally appropriate for a couple of adults to parade around naked pool side, not a sneaky early morning skinny dip, but pool side sunbathing and walking around in front of teenage girls? Not a family thing or in any way a nudist holiday.

Of course it's inappropriate and yes very sinister. They are indecently exposing themselves to a family who clearly don't want to see it.

6Musiclover · 24/04/2015 08:37

Dirty Bastards Perfectly summed upSmile

ivykaty44 · 24/04/2015 08:37

Pyjamas - read my first post for your answer.

Pyjamaschocolateandwine · 24/04/2015 08:39

And what changes a naked body into something derogatory is forcing people to look at it in public, who don't want to see it, and exposing it to underage children.

Serious boundary issues at best.

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