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To ask if a friend has ever abruptly cut you out?

220 replies

Homeishappiness · 13/04/2015 12:57

My friend has and I'm sad about it.

We were good friends, saw each other a lot, had a lot in common. I moved some miles away and I saw her twice in an eight month period (fine) but she and I emailed, texted one another reasonably regularly.

She went away in January, sent me some pictures and I replied saying it looked beautiful.

Have heard nothing since - texts and emails have been ignored (I know she's safe as she owns a small business and that's running well.)

Has anyone else just suddenly never heard from someone again?

OP posts:
anothermakesthree · 14/04/2015 13:05

No riverboat1, I disagree. This thread has shown that some people spend many years 'grieving' for lost friendships, made much much worse when the person on the receiving end has no idea what they have done. To tell somebody a friendship had moved on or no longer mutual, is much better than leaving people in the dark. That's actually quite cruel I my book.

ahfuckit · 14/04/2015 13:13

Justusemyname - thank you. I guess I still wonder IWBU and I still feel bad more than a year on. It helps to know someone else understands.

chasingtherainbow · 14/04/2015 13:46

Yep. I posted on here because I had become very very close with them, I considered our friendship special amongst our group and told her v personal stuff. I was aware she had anxiety issues etc..I posted because she had someone in her life who was taking advantage of her etc. Someone on my thread said that actually, it sounded like my friend was the 'wendy' and the one to watch out for.

I laughed at the idea.

Well. Fuck me.. less than 6 mo she cuts me off.. literally nothing. Radio silence. .. recently found out she's hidden some really big life news of hers and while I was already hurt, I was deeply hurt upon hearing this via another friend (who was also dropped) and that was it for me. I blocked her on everything I could and if I see her in the street I've nothing to say. I can't even ask her why because she is a skilled at deflecting attention and can't tell the honest truth about her feelings.

Even now I'm annoyed purely that I considered myself a good judge of character. Even our husbands where beginning to form friendships.

I've had to cut someone off before, she was mentally ill and I'd exhausted myself trying to help. Eventually I gave birth and fearing for my own mental health I had to create space. She was my closest friend ever and I was devastated and how things had gone. I grieved the friendship for 4 years be hire trying to patch stuff up. It'll never be the same but we are trying.

Meemoll · 14/04/2015 14:55

Crikey this thread is reassuring. It has happened to me loads too. I don't think I'm a very appealing prospect as a friend, and people always have shinier happier friends that they move on to once they have finished telling me how hard they find it making friends. It would be lovely to be that friend that someone else wants. I live in hope!!

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 14/04/2015 15:07

Yes and it hurt a lot. I'm still bitter about it. I fell out with a mutual friend of ours and she took her side. Don't know why she did as it wasn't anything to do with her. I made up with the mutual friend but I could tell they were distantcing themselves from me. Not replying to texts or comments on status's on Fb etc. The friend deactivated her Fb account but then set up another and didn't add me so I realised the friendship was over. I suppose I could have requested her but I didn't want to risk any further hurt so I didn't.

I don't know what her problem was. I am not likely to find out so I don't dwell on it too much. She obviously wasn't the friend I thought she was.

Jackieharris · 14/04/2015 15:46

Thank for starting this thread. I thought this kind of thing only happened to me!

As horrible as it is to read these stories of hurt feelings I now have a little reassurance that this is quite a common thing and doesn't make me some awful person.

My 2 main rejections were post Uni.

My bf during my undergrad got a boyfriend who didn't like me and so the distance started there. We kept in loose contact but once I'd had dc1 she visited once and never again. Her and her boyfriend moved into his parents house so visiting her wasn't an option. Mobile numbers changed, about 5 years passed then fb came into being. I thought this would be a great opportunity for us to rekindle our friendship but she refused my friend request. No idea why. We had been inseparable in our late teens and never actually fell out. I'm still perplexed.

After my postgrad course it felt like déjà vu. I was part of a group who all went out together. Then on one night out the 'queen bee' took me to the side and said she didn't want me in the group and was going to tell the others I'd been saying bad things about them (I hadn't). I was utterly gobsmacked and ran out in tears. I missed the next class and when I returned I was cut out.

This thread does make me realise I should appreciate the friendships I do have but also not expect them all to last a lifetime. Sad

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 14/04/2015 16:17

the 'queen bee' took me to the side and said she didn't want me in the group and was going to tell the others I'd been saying bad things about them (I hadn't)

Fucking hell Jackie that must have been bloody awful for you. I feel hurt for reading that. What an utter bitch that queen bee was xx

skinoncustard · 14/04/2015 17:08

Yep , friends for 20 + years , very close, invited to family events etc . Then suddenly with no reason ( that I know) it all changed, no popping in, no calls , nothing. When approached she said things were fine ( very polite but 'dry' ) and that was it! That was over 10 years ago and nothing's changed.
We live very close together but we have only bumped into each other about three or four times it the last ten years. She avoids me if possible, if she can't , it's polite, but she obviously can't wait to get away. I have no idea what I did. I was very upset at first but now I couldn't care less.
Live is too short for silly games .

EmeraldThief · 14/04/2015 17:12

At Uni I was very close to two girls. We did everything together, and we're always in touch. At our graduation one of the girls was very distant and slightly cold with us, we both commented on it afterwards. We've not spoken to her since. A few months later we found out from Facebook that she was pregnant, she didn't bother to tell us herself. Then the other girl in our group, who Im still friends with, left a message on her page asking how she was and what she'd been up to and she got a curt response. No mention of her having had a baby. It was just odd.

There's nowt as queer as folk.

WrappedInABlankie · 14/04/2015 17:26

Yup.

My ex-best friends. DC's weeks apart, went everywhere together, saw each other daily.

In hindsight it was for the best she was utterly and shamelessly selfish, still to this day is. She moved in with her 'd'P and I had to come to her to see her for a year, not once did she come to me even if it meant driving out my way by 20 miles she split up with her partner she moved into my flat with her DC, didn't pay rent, new partner her ex's Dbro got arsey with me when I asked her to move out (I was ill) she would ditch me last minute to see her DP, then moan at me if I dared arranged tosee my DP after I'd seen her. She'd bring her DC round, eat dinner at my house, bath her kids, take my DC's clothes/shoes without as much as a thank you, she then split up with her partner and was back on the dating sites the very next day.

She had about 5 men come round in the space of a few months each time her DC was in the house and she'd of been speaking to them for about 12 hours before they'd come round to her house. She met someone and got arsey with me as I wouldn't sit in her car with her for 4 hours whilst she waited for him to finish work (he couldn't drive) told me to come over for dinner then when I got there with my DC she turned round to me and said " I've done dinner for me, DP and DC. If you want something you'll have to go get it" I left and haven't spoken to her since. Deleted her of FB, her number ect.

It was for the best, I can look back and say actually you were horrible person, you used me when you had nobody else and when I was convenient for you to not have to buy clothes, wash, feed your DC with as much as a thank you.

So really. Lucky me!

MrsKoala · 14/04/2015 17:39

Yes, all my friends decided unanimously they didn't want to be my friends anymore. We were all at primary school together and had been friends for 25 years. Went on hols together, all each others bridesmaids/did readings at weddings, over at each others houses fairly regularly. I was made redundant and left my exH and (they had known him about 10yrs since we got together) my best of the friends started seeing him. They all met up with me to tell me they wanted to be friends with everyone/wouldn't take sides/loved me/were loyal and valued my friendship and then after that none ever answered a call/txt/email/letter again. I spent 6 months trying to contact them thinking they were just busy, then asking what was wrong, if there was anything i could do to help, then asking why they were not answering me. Then i gave up. When i saw a mutual friend apparently they were all going skiing with exH and exBF and said they decided after they saw me that 'they just didn't enjoy my company anymore'. That was 6 years ago and i still regularly cry when i think about them and dream about them most nights.

The sad thing is i can't look at any old school pics or holiday snaps as they are all in them. I would have done anything for them, i loved them like family. I'm an only child from a not close small family. So to me they were my family.

chasingtherainbow · 14/04/2015 17:55

Shock mrskoala .. reading that broke my heart for you. What a shitter of an EXH but your friends. Jesus. What awful awful behaviour Sad

I hope someday you find peace.

MrsKoala · 14/04/2015 18:07

what fucked with my mind about it was, why meet up with me to tell me how much they wanted my friendship and how loyal they were? (i still remember the exact words). it was totally unsolicited by me and exH and i had been quite amicable. On the way home they texted to say how great it was to see me etc. Then just nothing. It was just monsterously cruel. the mutual friend said they just decided it was easier to be friends with exh because he stayed living near and was with BF now. I made them feel awkward somehow. I don't know if they ever realised how much they devastated me. I was jobless, homeless, alone and friendless. They totally kicked me when i was down. I'm not saying they should stay friends with me if the didn't want to. But why do it like that? It still plagues me. i continually go over all last conversations. Was it something i said? did? i wont ever have peace. it was a genuine bereavement. The people i thought they were were dead to me. i got no closure at all.

OVienna · 14/04/2015 18:08

Mrs Koala
So sorry to hear your story. I just had to say how awful I feel for you hearing that.

I have been cut out and also cut people from my life. I don't agree that you owe everyone an explanation when this happens. If I'm not someone's cup of tea and make their skin itch, proverbially speaking - frankly, I don't want to hear about it. I don't need someone sitting me down and indulging themselves by sharing with me just to feel like they've 'done the right thing', how bizarre. Also, however, irritated you may be at the time, it may also be that with a bit of distance the same things are less problematic... So, I'm a fan of the 'fade away' approach in some cases.

What I do disagree with is obviously someone cutting a friend out and telling EVERYONE ELSE what the reason is...

I ended up with a couple of very unhealthy relationships coming out of high school and uni (with me feeling like I was obliged to please them, worried about them being critical of me) and I can remember very much feeling stifled by having these people so central in my life and not able to managing their expectations of me. My self-esteem was at stake. It helped that I moved abroad and contact just gradually lessened. I have re-engaged recently with one of them - she is exactly the same as she was 20 yrs ago but now that we are older and again there is no possibility of seeing her all the time, I don't feel the same sort of 'risk' dealing with her.

We have other friends who I wouldn't say have exactly cut us from their lives but we don't see each other any more the way we used to. It seems to me that it's down to the fact their children are much older than ours - the things they do invite us to are all child free and in their area (hours away from us.) Frankly, they seem to have amnesia about how helpful people were to THEM when their children were a similar age and accommodating when it came to similar events (their suggestions as to how we should manage our childcare issues are hilarious and include things they themselves would never have dreamed of doing but I guess with both sets of grandparents living down the road from them they've never dealt with such issues personally...) I have a feeling that when we're all older we might reconnect again...

OVienna · 14/04/2015 18:18

MrsKoala
I think you're ex-friends were just cowards and also may have been given an ultimatum by the BF now with your ex-DH. COuld that be the case?

cleanasawhistle · 14/04/2015 18:28

About 20 years ago me and my OH had the most wonderful neighbours who were great friends too.We went out together,did favours for each other etc etc.
My OH and I were renting and we found a house about 10 min drive away to buy.
They had an open invatation to come round...never heard from them again, not even a christmas card.

Justusemyname · 14/04/2015 18:47

MrsKoala - it WAS NOT something you said. It was all their twatty behaviour.

BackOnPlanetEarth · 14/04/2015 18:48

Some of these posts are so sad. Sad. I hope you have found some nice new friends MrsKoala Flowers

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 14/04/2015 19:30

MrsKoala That's awful. They behaved like total twats, it wasn't anything you did X

I agree with you Ovienna if I'm no longer considered to be friend material I'd rather not be told why as it would be too hurtful. I'd rather be phased out hurtful as that is too. I just think it would be easier to deal with rather than someone telling what they no longer like about me.

Some really sad stories here. Hugs to you all xx

RumbleMum · 14/04/2015 19:38

Some really sad stories on here. Sad

I've just remembered a friend cut DH and I out about six years ago. We were good friends with her and her DH, went to each other's weddings and used to go out to dinner and nights out.

DH and I went travelling for six months and when we came back we took them out to a good restaurant which was our wedding present to them as we knew they loved food. There was an atmosphere from the get-go - we walked in and she said she didn't want to hear about our travels as people get very boring about travelling. We hadn't said a word, and for that very reason hadn't intended to say more than a sentence or two about it.

The rest of the evening was very odd; she was strangely snidey about everything (which was totally out of character) and that was that - the friendship was over. She only ever got in touch again if we were useful to further her career ... I'm still hurt about it now and wonder what the hell we did wrong. Probably best I don't know, though, as I'm not sure my self-esteem could take it. Smile

BeetlebumShesAGun · 14/04/2015 19:58

One of my best friends who I met at work, she was a bit younger than me and we used to go out together with another girl. The younger one started seeing a guy from work who already had a long term girlfriend and around the same time I got pregnant. Within about 3 months we had gone from lunching together, texting and speaking every day to her totally blanking me when we passed me in the corridor at work I with no explanation. I was devastated.

I suspect it was because her boyfriend didn't like me and our other friend because we saw through him and because i could no longer get ratarsed with her. About 8 months after DD was born we bumped into her in our local and she was full of it like nothing ever happened. She said "ooh we haven't spoken in sooo long why is that?" Being the scaredy cat I am I just shrugged. She now likes and comments on the odd thing on Facebook but I never reply. Life is too short.

The other friend is now my best friend and was chief bridesmaid at my wedding Smile

TidyDancer · 14/04/2015 20:37

It's happened to me. Male best friend of 13 years. Saw him on my birthday one year, everything was as normal. After that say, he stopped being 'available', had polite replies to text messages, but was always busy when I suggested a phonecall. Eventually he stopped replying to messages full stop until I received one utterly cuntish passive aggressive message. Nothing since that day.

Even now, I don't know what I did wrong, but I do think he has done me a favour in the long term. With the perspective I have now that I'm removed from the friendship, I see how much of a selfish bastard he was and how bad a friend he was for a long time. Yes I am still angry about it. I'm just overwhelmingly grateful that he's out of my life and my DCs as well.

pushingupdaisies · 14/04/2015 20:45

I had a very close friendship many years ago. We met through our respective boyfriends and, when we split up from them, we became very close. It was almost like a love affair but without the sex and I considered her a true soulmate. She was in therapy (had been for years) and she often came to me in tears and I felt like I would put her back together and support her. I would have done anything for her.

Time moved on and I met a man who I have eventually married and had two DC with. At the time I was very, very careful to still see her separately as well as including her in larger group events where my partner was present. I was very conscious of not dropping her for the new man but inevitably, of course, I saw her less. She began to make excuses about seeing me and I could feel a distance opening up despite my very best efforts. Eventually when I was pregnant and bought a house with my partner I invited her over and she said she wouldn't be in the area for some time so declined (she lived four miles away). She had been kicking back on many of my invites so eventually I said to her I was there when she needed me and left the ball in her court.

She didn't contact me, even after the baby's due date came and went and I can only describe the loss of our friendship as like an arrow through my heart and it took me several years to come to terms with the fact that she had terminated our friendship.

Roll on four or five years and I randomly ran into her on a course. I now had 2DC and she had 1DC and a partner. Meeting her again out of the blue was like coming across a long lost lover and she asked to spend our lunch break together during which time she told me she had cut off contact because she was jealous of the relationship I had and the baby I was expecting - all things she wanted at the time.

We renewed our friendship, met up with the kids and went out together occasionally in the evening to catch up. However for me something had shifted: I can only think of it as getting back with a lover who has been unfaithful to you and guarding yourself against getting too close again in case they are unfaithful. I couldn't allow myself to get that close again.

She was very into alternative therapies, trying new ways of thinking and living (ideas I was not adverse to as I had trained as an alternative therapist) but she has been on a "life changing" therapeutic course and wanted me to try it. It was a residential course and about £600 at the time (about ten years ago) and I declined on the basis of too much money. she even offered to lend me the money and I declined.

The friendship once again drifted as we both worked, had children and partners and I found her demands sometimes difficult to meet. This time I think the drifting was more from my instigation and perhaps a self preservation tactic from being hurt again.

I haven't seen her now for about seven years. I wish her the very best and have some great memories but sometimes these intense friendships are a part of a particular period in your life and, when both of you move on, that friendship will be a casualty. It is a rare thing indeed to have a friend for life. I still have two friends from primary school and, included in a wide circle of friends, three or four women who I met through children and who I hope I will still be meeting up with on our zimmer frames.

This thread has really resonated with me and made me celebrate the friends I have and raise a (metaphorical) glass to the ones who were right in the moment but where we have both grown out of the friendship.

Sending out lots of support to all of you who have had some horrendous experiences at the hands of those you have most cherished.

LokiBear · 14/04/2015 20:54

Me too. Recently. I'm sad and wish I knew why.

Dowser · 15/04/2015 08:30

I find it happens all the time. I can equate to lots of those stories there.

It's all very sad. I like to think I'm a good friend but I often wonder/ know if I didn't ring I wouldn't hear from them.

I just think its worse when it happens in families.

Thankfully mine are still speaking to me as long as I have the solidarity of my family and soon Tobh I can cope with drifting friends.