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Houseguest From Hell: The Outcome

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Lilylonglegs · 08/04/2015 11:43

This is for all those who were following the original thread, asking whether I would be unreasonable to kick out my friend who was visiting for a week after her scathing comments and seeming reluctance to leave at the appointed date.

For all those who thought the story was not true, oh how I wish it wasn't, and for all those who advised me to drop the bag at the hospital. YOU WERE RIGHT.

I was feeling guilt at not sticking to the original dates and wanted to at least let her stay the next few days as agreed, however things came to light that let me know FOR SURE that she had no intention of leaving despite the mediation session and being blatantly told that she was not welcome.

Let me rewind back to yesterday. I called her at 5.30pm and she asked me to come back and get the boy. I said that I was not nearby (I hate the way how I was driven into basically becoming a liar like her) and she said that the other friend who lives nearby (who according to her begged her to stay in her house) who she met in France (let me call her French Friend) can come and take him. I said that was best as I didn't know what time I was coming back. She said that she would call her and make the arrangements.

I then called her at 9.30pm and told her that I still was not home, that I would stay the night at my mums house and go back in the morning as I had misplaced my key (another lie from me) She then made a joke that it was a good job they were keeping her in as if she had been out we would have both been "sleeping outside" I did wonder why she wouldn't go to FF if the son was there but I didn't mention it.

I asked what the doctors were saying and she said they took blood and she has to wait 48 hours for the results. I asked what the likely outcome was if there was a clot. She said that she would be put on treatment. I then asked where the son was and she told me that FF came and spent the day with her and was at the hospital between 1 and 5, and then took him home with her at 5. (Remember I spoke to her at 5.30pm and she was going to call FF to come and get the son.)

After sitting and thinking about it and coming to the conclusion that there was no way this was not just a bunch of BS (I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt, and think that just MAYBE she had good intentions but has a different was of going about things than me) I texted her at 10.30pm "Please send me FF address so I can drop the case off there."

There was no reply and I went to bed. In the morning I saw texts she had sent from 12.30am later that night. Saying, "You need to let me come out of the hospital. I cant stay as FF's house as she is under the government (she means council housing) and she called me a few minutes ago that her daughter has been rushed to the hospital so she will need to return DS to the hospital tomorrow morning so you need to have patience as this is a very difficult time for me. I should be out of here tomorrow because the results are out and everything is fine."

These were the texts that made me realise that she is really just a liar and a user. Plus I was with my mum when the texts came through and she went ballistic saying that I should not let her back in the house at all as she is spinning story after story. It is funny how everyone who desperately wants to house her goes on holiday or has some other emergency. It was also funny how at 9.30pm there was all this talk about results in 48 hours and needing treatment but then just 3 hours later, she is completely fine and leaving in the morning.

So I went home packed up all her stuff. All the bags of food shopping she had done (enough to last a few weeks not a few days) and the suitcase. I went to the hospital and dropped it on the reception at the ward. I do think this was somewhat cowardly on my part but I really didn't want to face her non stop sob stories etc. By the time I had got back to the car she was already texting me saying that I need to call her and we need to talk. I said "I had my own emergency. My mum has dropped your bags." She still kept sending texts saying that I should call her and that we really need to talk. No doubt she was still hoping on persuading me to stay. I then went a step further and told her "I'm already on the way to the airport. You already told me you had made other plans."

After this I guess she knew there was no coming back and then came the texts about me being heartless and wicked culminating and a rant about she knows I came to the hospital because the staff told her that it was me and my mum, how I ran away and didn't even attempt to see her on her sick bed. How she is seriously shocked by my behaviour, and she can't believe her life has come to this, how can she know such a wicked person.

I just said "I was not there. I don't know who ran."

That was the last contact I had with her. I am spending the day at my mums and although I feel guilty and not holding up to my end of the agreement by letting her stay until the time agreed I feel relieved to have my house back, as I don't think she would have left, and even now I am worried about her turning up, and even worse staying in the area somehow.

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Lilylonglegs · 08/04/2015 15:02

Crossfitmyarse She is definitely preggers no doubt about it, however her age and the age of the growing pregnancy is in question. She gave a date of birth at the hospital that made her 10 years older that she told me she was and claimed it was because she was 10 years older on her documents because when she first came to Italy she was so young they would have suspected she was not genuine (doesn't make sense to me either) I suspect she is actually 40 (although looks younger) because THE EYES DONT LIE!

She said that she was definitely having an abortion as she could not cope with 2 children and not be married, however I did find she was faffing about not doing anything about it, claiming that there was no point in doing anything until the money from unborn DC father comes. Weeks before she was talking about when the baby comes but I suspect it was finding out the laws in the uk with regards to abortion being different that made her change her mind, although even while she was here she still spoke about having it until they got into an argument about money. They also argued because apparently the woman in switzerland had sent numerous texts to him to report that she was a prostitute amongst other things, and he was saying to her, "oh so thats why you went to Switzerland?"

She was outraged about it claiming the woman was a drunken lying lesbian who tried to feel her up and was pissed off about being rejected but now I think that may not be so true. Why would she go out of her way to ring the boyfriend unless HG had been up to no good, taking the pee and outstayed her welcome there too. Let HG tell it the woman did not want her to leave and was begging her to stay, to the extent of calling the boys school and telling them not to let her take the boy on holiday. That makes no sense.

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Lilylonglegs · 08/04/2015 15:06

You can get abortions in italy up to 12 weeks so she is pass that. I do believe she wants to terminate the child but don't think she will go through with it. My bet is that she will hang around here for 3 months if FF has her, claims benefits and everything else, that she will be entitled to, then go and give the baby to it's father, and then put the boy in boarding school in Ghana, go to Canada and set up home in her Skype boyfriends bedroom (He lives with his mum)

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Crossfitmyarse · 08/04/2015 15:06

Well let's face it, it's a bit late to be expecting anything to make sense now. Confused

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 08/04/2015 15:15

Yeah, pretty much every word out of her mouth is an out and out lie. Also wrong date on government forms. Isnt that fraud?

Chippednailvarnish · 08/04/2015 15:18

Cheers Better Wine

Topseyt · 08/04/2015 15:21

Is Canadian "boyfriend" also a Skype contact of yours? If so then I would consider messaging him to warn him about what has happened to you and to others, forewarned being forearmed perhaps.

To add to the confusion (if that were possible), it now seems impossible to know how old she is.

Icimoi · 08/04/2015 15:27

I join Christina in not getting the "FGS phone Social Services now" hysteria round here. There is simply no evidence that the child is neglected to any extent that would justify SS involvement. All OP could say is that the child might not have a home to go to; but if asked why she thinks he is homeless she would have to tell them that she strongly suspects that HG has access to considerable funds and that she has a number of contacts from whom she will probably be cadging a bed. At the end of all that she would have to tell them that she has no idea where he is anyway. What on earth are SS likely to do about that?

Bettercallsaul1 · 08/04/2015 15:28

Sweet, but with a bitter after-taste? Probably better to bin the lot.

Patapouf · 08/04/2015 15:29

This is all so weird.

Are we all speculating future actions of HGFH?
She'll only stay in the UK is she can sponge off someone.

merrymouse · 08/04/2015 15:45

From what lily has said the woman is an erratic con artist who shouldn't be in charge of a pot plant, never mind a child.

If she isn't that bad and she is just a bit if a pain, fine, but then there wasn't really a problem in the first place.

"You want to stay longer - no sorry that isn't convenient for me - byee!"

forago · 08/04/2015 16:41

when is the boy due back at school in italy?

where is his father? Cant you get in touch with him (instead of SS) and see if he will have him?

who is sending money/allowance?

forago · 08/04/2015 16:41

so many questions .....

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Lilylonglegs · 08/04/2015 16:46

merrymouse she might be just a pain and a bit of a liar, but that bit about just telling someone you can't say longer. I told her directly over and over again and it was clear she was fabricating stories to stay put. How will I physically remove her and the son when she doesn't move and says the doctors say she has to keep her feet up?

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Lilylonglegs · 08/04/2015 16:50

forago the boy hasn't been to school in Italy for over 3 months as before they came to the UK he was going to school in Switzerland, so he isn't due anywhere. I suspect when they decide where they are going he will reenrol in school.

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merrymouse · 08/04/2015 17:06

I don't think because you go on holiday with your child as a sole parent you are incapable.

Of course not - but she isn't on holiday is she.

Just because she LIED and said she has no money, does not make it true.

But it does make her a lying scam artist rather than somebody who is taking her son on a mini-break.

merrymouse · 08/04/2015 17:10

How will I physically remove her and the son when she doesn't move and says the doctors say she has to keep her feet up?

Brusque, cheerful hustling and a taxi to the airport - but I thought she had gone?

forago · 08/04/2015 17:20

and the swiss school wont be wondering where he is? Surely his father would be concerned about him missing weeks/months of school? - although I guess shes got until next week to get him into a school for the start of term - nopt sure how you could do that without an address though?

Rainbunny · 08/04/2015 17:27

I probably shouldn't even care but I'm wondering in the midst of all this country hopping, what does your "friend" actually want? It seems that she successfully arrived and resided in Sweden, a country that I assume (maybe incorrectly) has a very generous welfare system, and then again she successfully moved to Germany and was even applying for citizenship (Is it that easy to apply for citizenship there? It doesn't seem like she was there for that long, or was she?) Why does she now think the UK is the place for her?

Tellhimyournamepike · 08/04/2015 17:33

She's clearly here for health tourism to either get her baby born/terminated here.
Sponging off OP, with a baby of her own-perhaps in the hope she will help provide support to a fellow parent.
And/or, if she waNts a termination, better sooner rather than later (therefore I doubt this is the case)
If she hangs on much longer she won't be able to fly back. Oh, hang on, all that clotting stuff in the hospital-better stay in Blighty....

And lying about DOB at the hospital? So they can't trace her & make her pay costs of care back (if deemed to be claimable)....
Lies, damn lies.

Tellhimyournamepike · 08/04/2015 17:37

rainbunny Why does she think the UK is the place for her?
Dunno, but think of all the air miles Grin

ASorcererIsAWizardSquared · 08/04/2015 17:43

fantastic....

spiney · 08/04/2015 18:01

Farago I don't think the HG really sounds like the type to worry about term dates.

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Lilylonglegs · 08/04/2015 18:11

MerrymOuse yes she is gone But that is what I envisioned happening had she not been removed against her will!

She removed him from the Swiss school by cancelling the residency. So they aren't expecting him.

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Lilylonglegs · 08/04/2015 18:14

Rain bunny the countries were Italy and Switzerland, I think she wants to start a new life here. FF has painted a wonderful picture of free everything, so she wants to claim benefits get housing etc. she did speak of setting up a business once she is on her feet. Funnily enough she was complaining how horrible council accommodation is that she could only last a few months in council accommodation as it's not the place to bring up a child. Funny how a beggar can be so choosy.

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