...To think the mum who attacked bullies is RIGHT?

[candidkate]

Just read this story

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/i-know-what-wrong-im-8870532

This poor mum has witnessed her DD be bullied for years. 15 school kids had the balls to even show up at her home screaming abuse, threatening to kill her poor DD! She comes home furious and attacks one of them, punching the other who tried to break it up.

I don't condone violence full stop. But these were 14 year old hardly little kids who do not know better. I'm sorry but I'm putting my hands on you before you ever harm my child!

It was a daunting situation - she had even called the police and what did they do? Nothing. Kids are killing themselves while schools and police twiddle their thumbs. Enough it enough!

Jessica2point0 Sorry to hear that - another example of being let down by the system. Hopelessness and fear will make you punch a minor x

AliceMcGee They were 12 and 13 when they committed the offence - pardon if i said they were the same as as beautiful Damilola.

Everyone

Don't let the word "child" or "minor" play games with you.

I just want to know who raises these people? Who raises these pieces of shit?!?!

What do you do when the school (when they can be bothered) calls home and says your child is involved in bullying.

I'd kill my child for not doing anything other than reporting it/stepping in. And I'd warn them that if they so much as snicker at someone being mistreated I'd give them something to laugh at.

Bullying isn't just about protecting your child from being the victim. It's about protecting your child from being a bully too. Teaching them morals and about peoples feelings. Teaching them that there's no pride in running around in a gang beating people up.

No disrespect (she may just be a keyboard warrior) but posters like Finnbarr scare me with just the appalling way they speak to people. Imagine being a child seeing your parent jeering and hitting bellow the belt and name calling all the time? Of course you are going to do it in school.

but the girl at thirteen is very much still a child!! is there any suggestion she is actually the one who hurt the woman's daughter ,or did she just not run away as fast as the others?

and the fact that she roped in other people suggests that the assault was premeditated

I'm not convinced this is as straightforward as it seems.

OP said "I'd kill my child for not doing anything other than reporting it/stepping in. And I'd warn them that if they so much as snicker at someone being mistreated I'd give them something to laugh at. "

Am I reading this correctly? So you'd threaten violence to your OWN child?

You're sounding worse with each post OP.

Finnbarr isn't the scary one here.

OP if I were you, I'd quit while I was (just about) ahead. I don't even know where to start with your last post.

I'm surprised to hear a lot of people hang back because these kids say you can't touch me, once they realise you ignore the law as much as they do their attitude changes. Get them on a one on one basis and it's their word against yours, yep they may go around in gangs or packs but they are always on their own at some point, just got to pick your moment...

Sorry but I despise bullies, when we were little we were forced to face up to them by my parents and although it wasn't nice it stopped all the shit, I wouldn't let anyone walk over me now no matter what age. Bullies aren't nice they are little bastards that feed of the misery of others

The law is an ass and should it let them down I would do anything to protect my children. We don't live in a fair or ideal world, we live in a sweep it under the carpet, hide behind political correctness world and whilst thumping a 13 year old sounds dreadful given the likely circumstances I think the Mother should not be charged with assault.

I'd kill my child for not doing anything other than reporting it/stepping in

That is easy to say, but no child with an ounce of self-preservation is going to do that!!

Alice McGee, I asked one of the officers who came here if I should put a cctv camera up. He replied that I could if it made us feel safer but that they would not be able to use it as evidence. I have a witness to this as my friend was here at the time.

So I'm only repeating what I've been told. If I've been misinformed then I can only assume it's because they just aren't interested in helping my Dd.

AliceMcGee self preservation?
Dignity, morals and standing up for whats right is what I teach my children to believe in. If mroe people stood up to bullies they would have less power x

DrSethHazlittMD and MrsPeterQuill

Oh stop have you never said "DD got red paint all over my jacket after i told her not to play with it i could have killed her"??
Come off it please its a figure of speech, I'd never hit my child. "I'm gonna kill these kids" is just a metaphor for you being angry at them. Which you obviously know but you feel like judging another parent.

Giving them something to snigger about meaning I'd tell them stories about suicide and self harm and lets see if they find someone being called a name so funny now! - But of course you knew that, God forbid you take it for what it is as opposed to resorting to word twisting and mum shaming!

Funny how some of you have read posts of suicide, self harm, severe anxiety, verbal abuse and police neglect and all you care about is little old me having a different view to you.

I've never once said on this thread that parents who would or have done nothing are weak/naive/bad parents/failures or any of the nasty things that could potentially be flung about. Sad that some other posters can't reciprocate.

If you don't want to do anything good on you. No one is threatening my child though

Sorry...

It's a natural reaction to protect your children.
Whilst logic tells you you shouldn't do it, once that 'fight or flight' kicks in, hearing your children screaming in fear, it's a bit hard to worry about logic.
As others have said, whilst she hasn't exactly covered herself in glory, I absolutely cannot bring myself to condemn her.

Also the 'they are only children' comments, some posters here seem to be spectacularly naive.
14 year old may be still be children, but that does NOT prevent them from being sadistic and dangerous

alwaysstaytoolong I understand - you are a better woman than me...obviously. Don't really care if you think I'm a bad person / crazy person for not allowing people to intimidate me and my kids and make our lives a misery. Even if they continue atleast I tried and my DCs know mum tries to protect them.

For the millionth time this is a last resort - I wouldn't come storming into school the first time it happened beating up 13 year olds.
I think her reaction is understandable after years of systematic bullying and being let down for the system. Don't really want to keep on repeating myself but for the last time:

What happened was a sad sad unfortuneate event. I’m not waving the flag for hitting anyone at all. Old, young, male, female! I’m also not branding parents who wouldn’t do anything as crazy or enablers or scaredy cats or anything horrid am i? So don't label me for being willing to resort to violence if I see it fit to protect my family. Now or in the future. I’d kill for my kids. If you wouldn’t good for you and I’m not being sarcastic. But don’t judge those of us who would do anything.

I do agree that sometimes the lines and can blurred when you believe you can take the law into your own hands. I do also agree that some people lack any reason and would tear down the school without any evidence or any attempt to do things the right way.

The right way is to entrust the police, school and social services. But for the trillionth time when they fail you do what you must

RocketInMyPocket - it obviously isn't that natural for a few people on here. That's fine and doesn't make them a bad parent. I suppose everyone is different. These people will kill you or make you want to kill yourself its not playground teasing. I suppose when all else fails you hide you and your kids at home....

If my DD had been punched fr that I'd say serves you right!

Longworth Sorry to hear that? How is it being dealt with? x

If I had been the mother, I would have hassled the school and the police and nothing would have been done. We would likely have moved house to escape the problem. Nothing would have been achieved except that we would have run away from bullies.
I admire this woman for tackling the problem using a language these particular bullies understand. The bullying culture in secondary schools is frightening. These 'children' hounding other kids out of school and more tragically to their deaths by suicide. I don't remember this sort of bullying going on when I was at school.( I know I'm an old fart) Day after day there are stories of kids being bullied for being fat, thin, Goths, beautiful, clever, having disabilities etc. in the news.
Children in the UK are often cited as being some of the most unhappy in Europe. Teachers in this country are on their knees dealing with gargantuan piles of paperwork and constant changes in curriculum. Common sense and looking at pupils as whole complex people have completely gone out of the window.These children are not being taken seriously/dealt properly by teachers. Excluding bullies is not done because it looks bad to Ofsted and bullies are given special treatment in the form of more attention instead of sanctions.
Physical violence against anyone is always wrong outside of a war. Hang on this is a war.

candidkate I can understand not doing it, but to not want to or have an urge to seems fucking bizarre.
It's surely a primal instinct?

I'm inclined to support the mother. Some teenagers think they are untouchable. Spare me all the gooey tosh about the cheeeelllldren. These are adolescents, and they are big enough to be both dangerous and scary.