...To think the mum who attacked bullies is RIGHT?

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Just read this story

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/i-know-what-wrong-im-8870532

This poor mum has witnessed her DD be bullied for years. 15 school kids had the balls to even show up at her home screaming abuse, threatening to kill her poor DD! She comes home furious and attacks one of them, punching the other who tried to break it up.

I don't condone violence full stop. But these were 14 year old hardly little kids who do not know better. I'm sorry but I'm putting my hands on you before you ever harm my child!

It was a daunting situation - she had even called the police and what did they do? Nothing. Kids are killing themselves while schools and police twiddle their thumbs. Enough it enough!

She punched a 13 year old and gave her a black eye.

The Police, school, SS; a whole host of people should have done more. YANBU ot expect more to happen to prevent this.

She should not have punched a 13 year old.

She shouldn't have had to have punched a 13 year old. How dare you bully my child for years and come to my home threatening my family? With my little DCs inside screaming and crying? It's not ideal but theres a lot of stuff that goes on that never has and probably never will make the papers. Kids killing other kids , kids raping other kids, kids stalking and tormenting others. When I was in school i watched a disabled boy cornered and beaten with PE equipment...we were in year 6.

YABVU for taking that very one-sided story at face value. Have you noticed the bit where it says she took two men with her to attack the girls? And the school's comment? There is clearly much more to this than the paper is reporting.

OMG. so nothing gets done about her poor kid being attacked yet she hits back and police are all over her???

I don't Condone violence but clearly no one's taking what's happened to her kid seriously and surely we can sympathise with her without supporting her actions.

why weren't the kids arrested they are over teh age of criminal responsibility

15 kids congregate outside her house and threaten her daughter. I have to say that given that apparently undisputed set of facts I can only have a great deal of sympathy for the mother.

I can't blame her one little bit. I hope those teenagers think twice before harassing anyone else.

Let's face it, it's called bullying when it's children, but harassment when they're adults, and adults can be charged for it. Some children these days are out of control and think they are untouchable.

Time to draw a line in the sand, and stop standing by and letting teenages get away with horrendous behaviour.

Icimoi She was the only one in the conflict and those two men have not been charged or accused of anything....
If i had 15 kids outside my house I'd want some people with me. Or no?

It's not ideal and the law must be upheld but she shouldn't be vilified.

I'd be a liar if i said i wouldn't do it too....

I dunno. There's two sides to every story. There's a lad who lives near us, he's 15 and he's known for dealing drugs. He sits on a wall outside his house, drinking and smoking, shouting threats at everyone. And the police are round at his house every other week for something or other.

A few weeks ago, about ten other teenagers turned up outside his house after a scrap. It says a lot, that his family didn't immediately called the police, they called for other members of the family to come round. But I suspect if you asked his mother, she would say he's being bullied.

I just don't think you can take things at face value, especially stuff in the papers.

Gileswithachainsaw The problem with bullying is that when an entire year group (in some cases) is involved how do you stomp it out?
How do you control other peoples actions? Sometimes the actions of 40+ children?
When I was in secondary school a girl was bullied by everyone - blatantly and indirectly. She has given a nickname by the bullies that everyone but the teachers bloody called her.
Teachers sat on their arses looking confused as she was called a whore everyday, as she was taunted and ridiculed.
Some of these kids are ridiculously sadistic is not banter. They don't care about teachers, police or parents.

MrsPeterQuill
What could this girl have possibly done to deserve this? Slept with someones boyfriend? Called someones jumper ugly?
I highly doubt this is some type of twisted revenge!
She was battered in the playground, her mum moved her out and they still came to her home for sport.

As a mum myself I can't condone violence. However that said as a mum. I can see how and why it happened. If Anyone of anything regardless of how big or how small hurts your child the claws come out. It's called being mother. It's an amimal instinct.
Perhaps if schools took bullying more seriously mothers wouldn't have to loose their tempers.

She was the only one in the conflict and those two men have not been charged or accused of anything....

You're doing it again, OP. You're taking a totally one sided report at face value. How do you know that no-one else has been charged? And if they haven't been, how do you know that it's not, say, because they couldn't be identified rather than because they were not there? Bear in mind that the school totally condemned this woman's behaviour, and they must know much more about it than you do.

You need to realise that when newspapers publish things like that they are much more interested in winding their readers up and getting people to click on to the website that in researching the facts and reporting them accurately.

Icimoi I agree - but you can say that about anything.
Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost I agree - if i could pick keeping my calm and dealing with it via the law i would but i don't think i would be able to control myself. Especially after it happening for years.

Agree two sides to every story.

When dd was at primary school there was a girl in her year who wasn't particulay popular. Out of the year I would say that dd was closest to her, mainly because she felt sorry for her and I said to always be kind to this kid.

Part of this girls problems were of her own making. She would make stuff up about girls, she would play them off against each other. If dd was with this girl in the park and another kid turned up the girl would tell dd she couldn't play with the newcomer. Dd was like, no we can all play together. This girl would then run home in tears to tell her mum that dd or someone else had been mean to her. I was at the park once and witnessed such an event so I know what happened and what the girl said happened were two different things.

Girls mum used to ring me moaning about the other kids. She wasn't pleasant to say the least. She did once tell me she was going to mess another girls face up if this girl carried on being mean to her dd. I didn't take it seriously.

Next thing the mum is in the school playground thumping a 10yo girl!

There probably was a bit of pre teen girl meanness from some but thumping kids isn't the answer.

I've no idea the whole story of what you've linked to. But quite possibly the mum involved doesn't either.

There is no excuse whatsoever for punching a 13 yr old girl!!.I would have filmed them.Then told them to clear off and if they didn't, turned the hose on them.Then I would have gone to the police and school with video evidence.

To be honest, the girl was lucky to get only a black eye. Old enough to go to people's house and threaten violence, old enough to learn that she is not all powerful. And if it take only a black eye, she should just learn her lesson.

VivaLeBeaver and AliceMcGee she was in a battle with the school and parents for years - this happens all the time!

In the context of you beating my child to a pulp, me taking her out of the school, and after me complaining to police, the school and parents you harass me in the street and 15 of you come to my home - I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same. 15 kids don’t egg a house and threaten to kill someone because they find the girl a bit annoying guys. Please. That’s disgusting and taking it too far. What can young girls really argue about? Someones a bit bitchy? Someones a bit rude? Somones a bit smelly/fat/skinny/spotty/opinionated? So bloody what? You do not threaten their life literally and verbally.

I understand what you are saying but I believe the mother. 15 kids outside your home threatening you with your DCs under 9 years old inside screaming with hear isn’t banter. Bear in mind she did call the police and what did they do? Nothing. Some kids are demonic sadistic human beings I’ve seen things you wouldn’t believe. I’ve seen teachers ignore things they should lose sleep over!! I don’t know how they sleep at night.

I don't know it shouldn't have come to this. Very sad.

There are legal systems for dealing with people who threaten you with violence. I agree that it would be better to film the girls and dial 999. If the girls a constant nuisance then there is the option of getting a court injunction against them.

To be honest if bullying is happening outside school, it becomes a police matter. The school's responsiblity is not 24h/7.

I know my Dc's school suspended a boy for lashing out at a younger child who was tesing him.This was on a regular (public) service bus. Also they get involved in cyberbullying.

YABU I think she should have gone to jail.

ReallyTired I agree, but under this context of systematic bullying for years whereby you are being ignored by parents teachers and law enforcement you are going to snap right? And this lady snapped. Her situation is something I've lived. Lazy teachers who hate their job and the students themselves. Kids who have been raised with no morals and taunt people for fun.

Id have thought if those girls had beaten her dd to a pulp they'd have been expelled? How come they're still pupils.

I could be wrong but for me the story doesn't necessarily add up. Her version may be very different to the others' version. It doesn't take much exaggeration to make the story sound very different.

Were these girls charged with assault or criminal damage? Doesn't sound like it?

hedgehogsdontbite Fair enough but the kids should have been charged with battery and intimidation and anti-social behavior for beating her daughter to a pulp, coming to her home and threatening her with death and taunting her in the street outside school in public.
The school should have been charged with neglect.

Although what the mother did was wrong (very,very wrong) I can understand she4 was desperate and at her wits end.I think the court have recognised this as she has received a very lenient sentence.

VivaLeBeaver I've watched people be choked, beaten, urinated on and spat at. They skipped on home afterwards without a care in the world. Teachers got in their cars and drove home to their kids and slept beautifully.