...To think the mum who attacked bullies is RIGHT?

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Just read this story

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/i-know-what-wrong-im-8870532

This poor mum has witnessed her DD be bullied for years. 15 school kids had the balls to even show up at her home screaming abuse, threatening to kill her poor DD! She comes home furious and attacks one of them, punching the other who tried to break it up.

I don't condone violence full stop. But these were 14 year old hardly little kids who do not know better. I'm sorry but I'm putting my hands on you before you ever harm my child!

It was a daunting situation - she had even called the police and what did they do? Nothing. Kids are killing themselves while schools and police twiddle their thumbs. Enough it enough!

I'm not a middle class Highgate/St Paul's mum. At least I don't think I am. I don't actually know what that means. I grew up on a council estate in Liverpool.

hedgehogsdontbite reading posts like yours makes me so so SO ANGRY! Who raises these people? Who? WHO? Disgusting

hedgehogsdontbite - I was talking about Mumsnet in general. Obviously everyone here is from different parts of the country. I just meant that there are a lot of privileged sheltered mothers on here who think the police / school staff will swoop in on white horses and swords and save the day. That usually happens when there are 10 kids in one class and u pay 5K term...

She wasn't right - it's never OK to beat people up - but I suspect that any parent of a child who's been relentlessly bullied will understand where she's coming from.

No of course punching someone your child's age isn't the right thing to do. No one can argue that.

But I won't be up all night crying for that kid either. If she'd stayed at home watching X-Factor with her nan then it simply wouldn't have happened.

Hopefully all of them- including the school and the 999 operators- have learnt their lesson.

But where does it stop SallyMcgally. What do you do to protect your children when the school and police fail you? If the school and police had dealt with this properly do you honestly think these people would have had the balls to come to her home and threaten her and egg her? Seriously? I understand where you are coming from but I wonder if some of the other posters actually are aware of what goes on in Britain in certain areas/schools ... Open to opinion obviously this is AIBU but I'm a bit shocked.

SaucyJack When the police don't come and the school have disregarded you and you have taken your child out of school and they still some on to your property and threaten your life what do you do? She's already called the police and they didn't come.....Hide in your home and quiver in fear and let children run your life? Watch your DCs cry in fear?

I'm sympathetic candid - truly I am. I've had to take DS out of school because the bullying just didn't stop, and I've lain awake at night imagining being able to beat the bullies up, but the bottom line is that it just isn't right at the end of the day. No - I don't think that it sounds as if the school or the police did enough. No - I don't have answers for what she should have done next, though recording the evidence and taking it to the police would have been better. And bombarding them with requests for help, until they did actually do something. I don't think what she has done was right, and in fact now she's having to pay compensation to the bullies and has landed herself with a criminal record.

Take a video and upload to your local police authority's Twitter feed to she them into responding?

Look, I didn't say I had the answers, but objectively speaking- punching a child 20 years younger than you (unless you are under a direct threat) is never going to be the "right" thing to do.

*shame, not she.

Yes saucy and also send it to the school's governing body and to Ofsted with a letter detailing all the times you'd tried to get school and police to intervene. And a copy to local MP.

You have to escalate it up the chain. When my neighbours were harassing and threatening me the council and police did nothing. Even when a pissed up gang of them smashed all my windows and broke my door off the hinges they did nothing because the neighbours all lied and backed each other up and said I'd done it myself. They even accused me of being the instigator saying I was constantly shouting racist abuse at them. I was too scared to even look at them let alone shout anything. Eventually I went to see my MP who was brilliant. He was utterly disgusted and promised me he would make it go away, and he did just that.

I do not condone violence, I do not believe in corporal or capital punishment but I would I do the same to protect my boy? Er yes I can hand on my heart say that if the story is true, I would have done the same.

Was she right - well no clearly not but this situation should never have got that far.

If one of my kids had done that to another child, I would come down on them like they would not believe.

hedgehogsdontbite and Sally

I hate to be perverse - but as you escalate it up the chain your child could already be dead. Just one fall with a thump to the head on the pavement is all it takes. Just one push too far is all it takes to find your poor DC hanging in their room.
Some kids survive years...some months....some weeks....
While we file reports and wait 14 working days for a response....kids are dying.
Bare in mind most of the time it gets referred where? Back to the school which is doing nothing anyway.
One issue that many mums thankfully have admitted - is that without evidence very little can be done. A lot of bullying is so and so's word against so and so's. Doesn't matter how battered your child is.No CCTV? No one owning up? No witnesses doing the right thing? No justice.

sanityseeker75 I can't condemn her when I would do the same thing. I'm not hiding in my home while my child gets beaten up.
I don't care what the law says I don't care what the school says you aren't touching my child in front of me. You aren't threatening my child in front of me. I'll protect my kids until i die even if it means getting my hands a bit dirty. When people say "I'd do anything" for my child they obviously don't mean it and I don't say that in a judgemental way.

And I swear I'm not being perverse but why is it so bad that the kids were 13 and 14? and they been 4/5 years older would it still be an issue? They aren't little kids with baby teeth.

They weren't touching her child in front of her. Her daughter was in the house under no actual threat of violence.

Anyone know what (if anything) happened to the bullies? Where they prosecuted at all for the harassment? Hopefully they were, and have been made to pay compensation to the bullied girl. Personally I'm finding it very hard to feel sorry for them.

They weren't touching her child in front of her. Her daughter was in the house under no actual threat of violence.

Oh, that's alright then.

You sound completely hysterical OP, you're actually embarrassing yourself with some of the hyperbole you've written here.

fakenamefornow No and they still bully the girl!

I think that all teenagers who bully to this extent need a bloody good hiding.
If the little sod did get a black eye it sounds like she more than asked for it.

I think there are very very few scenarios where it is right for an adult to punch a 13 year old child. This was not one of them.

I applaud the mother for what she did. The girl was 13, so what..She was threatening violence against this mothers child. What was the mother supposed to do, the school did nothing, the police did nothing. Was she supposed to let it all continue. Disgusting nasty bullies got taught a lesson they won't forget. Isnt it just typical how the police decide to involve themselves when somebody makes a stand against the ones who were causing all the trouble in the first place.

It's wrong, and there's obvious far more to it, BUT having had to remove a child from school, on the advice of the police, and HE her due to no other schooling options, I can hand on heart say that I am very grateful that I never bumped into any of the disgusting little cows who thought it was just fine to physically and mentally abuse my 13yo DD.

I don't condone what this mother did, but I sure as hell can understand why she snapped.

If it was a 14 year old lad that she'd hit I bet she'd have more sympathy.