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[chilephilly]

Threads I've read in the last half hour so....
I'm spending more than what a significant part of the UK earns in a year on a holiday
I'm voting Conservative
Owen Jones is a skid mark
I love UKIP immigration policy.

Us Socialists are unwelcome. AIBU? Or am I just reading the wrong bits?
(preparing to be told to feck off to Russia)

Atticus, I am a grungy old leftie, where is your road kill thread? - I want in!

oscar discussions of the day "Power's out". If you have road kill tips we need them! (although technically there'll not be much road kill once we use up all the petrol in our tanks).

Ace, off to find you now. Thanks.

I don't understand 'how much do you spend on your holiday/car/house' threads.
Talking about the cost of something in context, like 'I've got £1,000 for a city break, where would be fantastic' makes sense. 'Look at this bloody gorgeous place I'm going to!' makes sense
'Im spending sixty squillion on holidays this year' is just cringy isn't it. And I say that as someone who spends an awful lot. I'd never post how much I spend on a thread where people are saving like a bastard to take their kids somewhere.

Each to their own.

I don't think it makes much difference posting on a thread how much your family holiday costs. I am sure the posters unable to spend .much in holidays are perfectly aware that other posters can spend thousands. So seeing it typed on a screen won't be that much of a shock to them surely?

And even if you don't mention the actual cost of your family holiday, mentioning that you're going to The Maldives or Disney Florida makes it very obvious that you must be spending a lot of money. Far, far more than those only able to camp in the UK.

The fact you haven't mentioned actual pounds and pence can only be a tiny sop to your conscience.

To hear that someone spends £47k a year on holidays did shock me. I must be naive.

It's probably OK to say you're voting Conservative if it's the only way to keep UKIP out in your constituency.

Is it OK to admit to being an LD voter this time round, or are they still unforgiven for the university fees issue (for which they were most unfairly castigated in the circumstances IMO) ?

WrydSmyth

I'm not sure it's a sop to my conscience because I'm perfectly content about enjoying nice holidays. I just don't understand the point of 'how much are you spending' threads and it puzzles me.

But don't let me interrupt your being gratuitously rude to me. Enjoy.

It should 'be ok' to say you are voting conservative whatever the circumstances.

Unless we now live in a left wing dictatorship and I missed the memo?

I think the how much do people spend is very interesting.

A window into the lives of others. Which, as a nosey buggar, I love.

No point getting all coy about money.

Dear god, yes. Do we really need to feel afraid to say what our politics are on MN?

I've always been awkward about money I think.
I was brought up not to talk about it. Grew up extremely poor and have made money later in life. I have family who remain poor and it's a point of tension with some of them.
I ve never told anyone how much I earnt, how much money I have, how much my house cost, how much anything costs actually unless it was in the sale

I probably have issues but I can't do it. It feels crass. I'm interested in other people's views about money being out in the open. I suspect it's healthy but I can't get over the cringyness.

pag I too was brought up poor. And yes, there were lots of times when we knew to keep very quiet about the precarious state of affairs we were in.

But as I got older I realised that money, and more importantly, the making of it wasn't some magical, out of reach thing. If you had the knowledge, the information, you stood a much better chance of getting it.

The very best thing for me was the Dad of a byfriend at university explaining how the world worked for rich people. He also explained to me that the middle class thing of not speaking about money, actually prevented others from getting it; a barrier of silence.

It still exists of course. There was a thread recently about expensive cars and how people afford them. I'd say 90% of posters said debt, or drug money, or the cars were leased etc. It was as if the truth were unspeakable; there are a lot of people earning a lot of money.

I'm sorry but I don't see how I was being so rude. It's surely not rude to point out that if you post your are holidaying in Disney Florida then you are very obviously spending several thousand as opposed to just a few hundred pounds on your family.

Deliberately refraining from stating a specific price is pretty pointless if you're supposedly sensitive to the feelings of those who can never afford such an expensive holiday.

ThWordFactory,
Yes, you make that point well.
It's something I think about but it's quite entrenched. I've also had some nasty experiences - like being expected to pay for things to do with my fathers funeral but not allowed to contribute to the service.
I guess I've been at the two extremes - not allowed to discuss money because it was shameful and then being evicted while our neighbours watched, and then having a lot in a family that doesn't.
Like I said - issues

Sure . Not rude at all then

I am at a loss as to how it is rude? It's just common sense surely? If you're wary of upsetting others who can't afford expensive family holidays then surely you wouldn't reference your own expensive family holiday on any thread?

Oh give over. Just own it.

I said I don't understand threads to just talk about how much your holiday cost. Threads where that is the only context. It doesn't make sense to me except as a financial pissing contest.
Threads talking about holiday choices and destinations at least have a context.
I don't often contribute to any of them.

If you don't think you were rude that's fine but you are wasting your time trying to convince me because I know you were. And actually still are.

Some of the most intolerant people on MN are lefties/liberals. Liberal Fascists I call 'em.

And saying bluntly 'just own it' isn't remotely rude of course

People who make such blunt non sequiturs generally resort to them in an argument when they can no longer defend their opinion.

It wasn't rudeness on my part. Just a common sense observation.

Surely if you don't want to read about posters and their holidays then you just don't open that thread? It's not like there is a shortage of other threads to look at.

I love hearing about people's holidays, always have done even when we couldn't afford them ourselves, so I'm loving that thread.

Ehy, on a public forum people are posters trying to limit what members can talk about because they personally don't like the topic.