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my dp NEVER tips

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suzzieanneba46 · 05/03/2015 06:13

My dp just refuses ever to tip. This is because he worked in a pizza restaurant when he was a student and never got any of the tips as he worked in the kitchen.

Aibu to think he needs to give this up and just go along with social norms?

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TwoOddSocks · 05/03/2015 09:59

I think it's ridiculous not to tip. When you eat in a restaurant it is expected that you pay for the food and tip, that forms part of that person's salary. When someone takes a job as a waiter they expect tips as part of their salary where as kitchen staff do not. I don't really like tipping and would prefer the price was incorporated into the cost of the food but since that's not the system I leave a tip.

iLoveFlop · 05/03/2015 10:00

I love the 'most generous and kind DP' competition that always pops up in these sort of threads. I reserve a particular 'lol' for the thirsty DP who went without to save a pregnant lady's legs.

I tip when the service has been good, round up taxi fares and give a fiver to my hairdresser. I certainly object to feeling obliged to pay.

TooOldForGlitter · 05/03/2015 10:03

How does it form part of a persons salary when they are being paid, at worse, minimum wage? Thousands and thousands of people are being paid national minimum wage and in jobs were tipping would be unheard of.

SaucyJack · 05/03/2015 10:04

I don't tip unless staff have been especially Kim

SaucyJack · 05/03/2015 10:07

Kind/tolerant to the DCs.

We're not living in Victorian Britain any more- we have the minimum wage, and peasants are allowed in restaurants themselves. Tipping is an outdated classist practice that needs to go.

UnalignedAnt · 05/03/2015 10:08

My OH has always tipped well. I find it such an attractive quality. We're nowhere near well-off and understand how shite it is to have no option but low wage work.

My brother-in-law is a high earner and never tips. Tight as fuck too. Hate sorting the bill when dining out with him and sis. They're really dismissive of wait staff. Makes me cringe.

noddyholder · 05/03/2015 10:10

I always tip and tip well as I worked for years as a waitress and it does make the wages up

nagynolonger · 05/03/2015 10:12

What is it you don't get dexter? People don't have a duty to spend money anywhere. They do have to right to though if they have the cash to pay the bill even if they can't afford to/or are too mean to leave a tip.

hugoagogo · 05/03/2015 10:25

I love that tripadvisor page, it backs up what I have always believed.

I don't tip very often, I think it's wrong that waiters are not well paid; tipping them lets their employers off the hook.

Better to campaign for a living wage for everyone I think.

Just for fun- who thinks people should only pay for what they order, rather than splitting the bill equally?

rimskykorsakovscorset · 05/03/2015 10:26

42, I love that Tripadvisor page. I wish we were all still like that!

We generally tip around 10% in restaurants unless the service has been dire. I don't really know why, probably down to perceived social convention. Our local pub and local indian restaurant are both excellent, good food, always lovely service, so we usually round up to next £10 as the quality of both food and service is markedly better than other places locally, and we feel that deserves recognition.

I don't know why 'waiting on' is viewed as a menial job. A good waitress can really enhance a restaurant experience. I don't like obsequious waiting staff or waiters who pop up every 5 minutes to see if 'everything's ok' but maybe we need to take a leaf out of France/Italy's book and value waiting on as an important job.

Mrsbird311 · 05/03/2015 10:30

I think your attitude to tipping is reflected by the sort of person you are, I'm super generous and tip everyone, always buying little gifts for people and am the kind of person who would give a stranger a fiver if they were short for their shopping and I'm like that with everything, if I've got it you can have it, my lovely brother on the other hand is sooooo tightfisted and won't tip, will ask you for the £2.50 you borrowed last week and is super careful with money, won't put money in the charity tin and makes his lovely girlfriend go 50/50 on everything, he's s lovely person but this does show a level of selfishness and me me me

alleypalley · 05/03/2015 10:32

Those that don't tip, do you mean on top of service charge, or do you actually ask for service charge to be taken off?

I rarely tip above service charge. But I have asked for service charge to be taken off a couple of times when service has been really bad. If the food is bad I ask for that to be taken off (if so bad as so I don't eat it).

Wildernessrock · 05/03/2015 10:53

I agree, if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat out. It is just rude not to tip unless service has been exceptionally poor. It is fine to not leave anything if there is 12.5% service charge on the bill though.

I waitressed at uni and I would say 95% of customers left at least 10% tip, but often 15-20%.

I would refuse to go out to dinner with someone who didn't tip ( and probably wouldn't be friends with them in the first place, I don't like stingy people, it's not a nice trait to have!)

Torwood · 05/03/2015 11:00

Hugo, and others saying they font tip because it lets the employer off the hook; Do you also not give to charity or help financially support your child's school because really that's the government's job ?

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Dowser · 05/03/2015 11:34

I hate this tipping culture.

What's wrong with a pleasant exchange during the service and a well deserved thank you at the end.

rimskykorsakovscorset · 05/03/2015 11:41

Torwood, I don't think your analogy works as restaurants are businesses out to maximise profit whereas schools and charities not so much.

Ems1812 · 05/03/2015 11:58

I like to tip if the service was good but my DP never does. It frustrates me because having once been a waitress myself, I know how crap the pay is & how hard it can be.

What does piss me off is the idea that kitchen staff should receive a share of tips. Where I worked as a teenager, we were expected to share our tips with the kitchen despite them being paid between £12-15 a an hour & we only received £4.00 an hour & worked longer & later shifts. It seemed bloody unfair!

richthegreatcornholio · 05/03/2015 12:04

I always tip around 10% unless the service is poor.

KatoPotato · 05/03/2015 12:05

what about the window cleaner? DH and I argue about this every fortnight. He's a grumpy curmudgeon who always got a £1.50 tip. (DH started this and always left this amount in the drawer). So he'd turn up and say '£8.50' and id give him a £10note.

One week he grunted 'it's gone up this week'

'What to?' I asked

Ten pounds he said.

I said 'oh righto' and looked at the tenner and handed it to him.

Told DH and he has started putting £11.50 in the drawer. I still give him the tenner. AIBU? DH thinks so, but I think he's rude and should have told us the time before that he was putting up his prices?

BigChocFrenzy · 05/03/2015 12:12

Tipping is an outdated relic of masters and servants class crap, which makes me uncomfortable.
I felt embarassed accepting tips 40 years ago, when I had a holiday job waitressing. It was very demeaning, especially with some clearly skint OAPs - I felt they needed it more, but it would have humiliated them to refuse.
Waitstaff should have a regular wage like other employees, not dependent on the finances, mood or sheer whim of the customers.

Good quality ingredients and the chef's skill determine my enjoyment of a meal: I don't rate the waitstaff as important, so long as they keep their thumbs & hair out of the food.

Purely to follow social custom, I tip waitstaff unless service was poor.
I also tip hairdressers, but not taxi-drivers

Dowser · 05/03/2015 12:38

I agree big choc

Sallystyle · 05/03/2015 12:41

The only place I haven't tipped is in Pizza Hut.

They added a service charge with a line underneath saying I could ask for it to be removed if I didn't want to pay it. I was so pissed off because I had a buffet and all they did was sit me down and ask if I wanted to see a menu. I thought it was disgusting that they wanted me to pay extra for serving myself.

SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 12:54

I never tip either, I'm completely with your DP on this, If you're in the UK, it is completely OK not to tip, you know! Hmm Unless you're in London where they're bloody obsessed with it
It seriously isn't the norm here. I see it as a ridiculous notion, and can't understand why some jobs are seen as worthy of tipping whereas other jobs are expected to just suck it up even if they're on minimum wage too (which is usually the argument trotted out by tippers, that they don;'t get paid a fair wage.)