my dp NEVER tips

[suzzieanneba46]

My dp just refuses ever to tip. This is because he worked in a pizza restaurant when he was a student and never got any of the tips as he worked in the kitchen.

Aibu to think he needs to give this up and just go along with social norms?

This lovely comment about can't afford to tip can't afford to go out just won't fuck off and die will it.

So people 'like me' who don't tip are selfish, tight, mean and shouldn't be going out for a treat as a family unless I can afford to top up someones national minimum wage by spending my hard earned and saved for weeks national minimum wage. Gotcha. Meanwhile back in real life....

The thing is all you non tippers whatever your justifications it's a fair bet your dining companions will think you are mean and socially inept. Sorry but I would. Wouldn't say anything though. Thinking about it have never eaten out with a non tipper

If you are that skint that you can't afford to leave a small tip then maybe you shouldn't be eating out.

I can afford to eat out, and I can afford to put a tip down to. I'm just not going to. We go out and pay for what we receive. Stupid that we're expected to pay the wages as well.
(As a few on the thread have pointed out, it's shit pay - exact wording taken from a pp).)
Well, it always will be shit, won't it if the employer knows the general public are going to pay it so they don't have to.

tip down too not to. Stupid keyboard

The thing is all you non tippers whatever your justifications it's a fair bet your dining companions will think you are mean and socially inept. Sorry but I would. Wouldn't say anything though.

Really, no. It's just not as big a thing here, You're more likely to be seen as flash and showing off to be leaving tips.

Eye opening thread for me! Hadn't realised non tipping so widespread. In my experience it would an utter no no and deeply embarrassing but to others it's perfectly fine. Maybe regional?

How does it form part of a persons salary when they are being paid, at worse, minimum wage? Thousands and thousands of people are being paid national minimum wage and in jobs were tipping would be unheard of.
Because, TooOld, only some jobs on minimum wage are worthy of topping up minimum wages, didn't you know?! You have to be in a job where it;s apparently socially acceptable to stick out your hand and expect more money.
If your job isn't deemed the right type of minimum wage job, nooo, then that's fine for you to stick with minimum wage.
You shouldn't be surprised apparently by waiters, (according to another poster) spitting in your food if you don't tip. Cos they're special and need it.
Whereas if you don't tip a minimum wage hospital cleaner, the same tippers would be OUTRAGED if they spat in your bedpan before putting it back.
Same premise. As I said, some jobs are deemed more worthy, obvs.

I don't tip unless the service has been exceptional and only then if I am sure it will go directly to the person who provided said exceptional service. I don't agree with shared tips either. I'm not mean I don't think. I just dislike being bent over twice.

I don't agree with tipping really. I used to work in a care home and I also used to waitress. Both were minimum wage. The care home was way, way tougher and no tips there.
I don't understand why one specific part of retail deserves more money than others. It isn't a difficult job.
I do tip my hairdresser as at least that is a skill for which they don't get paid very much and I think they deserve a bit more.
I still tip out of social convention though most of the time.

Amen Swirly

Us working-classes wanted the minimum wage and social equality.

Well, unfortunately for you restaurant staff, that means serving food to people who don't earn any more than you without the expectation that they'll bung you a fiver under the table just for doing your job. Sorry.

I hate that we need to tip - but we do, in the current system. I do judge people as tightwads and meanies if they don't tip. And I would think your DP's experience of not being tipped would incline him to recognise how good it is to tip.

(My favourite places say that all tips are divided equally amongst all staff at the end of the night, including the kitchen staff.)

Thing is the culture of tipping has come from accross the pond and is getting more and more socially the norm. But waiters are paid a minimum wage here which they don't in the US. It isn't really fair to expect tipping here and it annoys be that it has become a social norm.

Oh so I'm socially inept as well as mean and tight fisted. Excellent, good to know.

Indeed I do not give to medical charities for the same sort of reason.

Maybe not that recently but definitely brought in by the americans and 30 years ago we didn't have a minimum wage.

As saucy Jack says. Loads of people earn mimimum wage. Why should waiters expect people that earn the same as them to tip them for doing their job?

As saucy Jack says. Loads of people earn mimimum wage. Why should waiters expect people that earn the same as them to tip them for doing their job?

A comment that keeps getting repeatedly ignored.

Fuck tipping, another American import.

I now remove the 'added service charge' and then tip the waiters.

I had my suspicions that the additional percentage went primarily to the owners with a remainder being split amongst the staff and after finally getting a couple of waiters/resses to confirm, that's what i now do. though the point about the kitchen staff wasn't one id considered! argh!

but like another poster I tip pretty much everyone for everything as I feel lucky to have lots.

did witness a very amusing scene between a US student were employed and a local barman. She ordered drinks, paid and then tried to tip him a pound..the ensuing confused conversation was quite funny as neither got what the other was doing at all

We're going to Canada in May and have had to allow quite a lot of money for tips. You have to leave the chambermaid a tip every single day (as there may be a different one each day) and we're going to be on the Rocky Mountaineer for part of the trip, and will have to tip the 'hosts' on the train as well as all the usual tipping of serving staff, bar staff, taxis, porters etc. It's going to cost a bleeping fortune! Still, it's my husband's dream holiday of a lifetime and is expensive anyway and I know the people rely on tips, so don't begrudge it.

OP, would/does your DP tip when abroad?

I've been a hotel chambermaid, barmaid, waitress and kitchen hand. I had tips in every role, but by far the lowest amount I've been tipped is as a chambermaid. It was for about 4 months over summer holidays, full time. I got 50 pence once (I won't tell you what I cleaned up which clearly guilted the guest into tipping) and £5 once. And I cleaned well and reliably. It was a couple of years before NMW and I got £2.90 per hour.

People don't tip anything like as much as the people who do actually tip, think they do.

I always tip.

10% to hairdresser, taxi drivers, waiting staff and about £5 per night to chambermaids in hotels. And I tip in cash rather than add it to a credit card bill, so that I know they are seeing the money.

Loads of people earn mimimum wage. Why should waiters expect people that earn the same as them to tip them for doing their job?

It is customary for people to leave tips in restaurants but not to tip a checkout girl. That's just how it has evolved. There is no consistency to it at all.