to expect nursery to change my 14mo before I pick her up

[CrazyRainbowLady]

She's in cloth nappies. They have a rule that they change nappies every 3 hours, her changes are usually at 10.30 and 1.30 according to the communications book.
She gets picked up at 4 and I usually run errands or pick up my older dcs from after school clubs etc.
I've asked them several times to please change her before I pick her up as we keep getting leaks from her nappies after pick up, but it rarely happens.
AIBU?

All these parents that are fixated with nappies! when I could give you a list as long as my arm to tell you about the way the kids turn up! Very rarely is their nappy not full to bursting. Apparently its someone elses job in the morning too when handed over. I even have many amounts of children coming into my nursery with poo stuck to their poor little bottoms.

They are quite often the parents that bang on about nappy changes.

Im just saying.....

As a registered nurse I would certainly be accountable for my actions and behaviour at all times, including out of the workplace. I could be hauled in front of the Nursing and Midwifery Council for any number of reasons. Being professional doesn't just refer to when you're in your place of work.

As I said before, it's human nature to feel exasperated by others and its normal to want and need to let off steam. It's the overall tone in the majority of your posts that leaves a lot to be desired.

Anyway, I don't want to get into an online argument so I'll leave it at that.

(And to the original question by the op.....I think YABU.)

err ok duck

Sigh.........

I tend to separate the two.

So coyacan do you send your baby to nursery in a dry nappy? That's just been change before you arrive?

Once the baby wet her nappy on the way the nursery but, outside of that, I wouldn't send a baby to the nursery in a dirty nappy. I also wouldn't leave a baby three hours between changes.

But disposable nappies can last for 12 hours. Not that I am suggesting babies/children should be changed every 12 hours. But changing a nappy every 2-3 hours seems to much to me.

I have 2 dc and they have never had sore bums and I always changed them every 4 hours.

Some people must spend a fortune on nappies.

Going back to ginger's question, Tink, there is no reason a child aged 1.5 (or over) might not be breastfed.

Im not saying that people have their things they do. But in a "nursery" situation your child will not be changed when "you" think they should be. This is impossible. If you are that way inclined then maybe a nursery isnt for you. It isn't the ideal situation for all.

I personally had a childminder for my son due to not wanting this.

There are reasons why people choose what they do.

Some want their child in an environment that is strictly controlled, hence a nursery (nappy changing aside)

Some want their child solely looked after by a nanny in and around their own homes.

I opted for a "family" away from home situation, where normal everyday things were encompassed. My childminder went to the post office, she went to sainsburys, she did what anyone does when running a home. She also looked after another child at the same time. This to me was the most "natural" setting.

I chose a "mum" thing when I wasnt there to be one.

Of course breast milk is brought into the nursery, just not the breast

So it really is a "hand over at the door, no parents allowed" policy.

That must suit some parents, but personally I preferred the open door arrangement my DD1's nursery had. Mums working in nearby businesses popped in at lunch time to feed their (shock, horror!) toddlers by (shock, horror!) breast...

To the OP: Maybe a chat with the keyworker might help jiggle the change times around? Someone else suggested starting with a 9,30 change... which would work unless she has an interim change for a poo at some point.

Other than that, maybe just change her yourself before you leave, as others have said.

Well that opened a can of worms, didn't it?

For the record, I have worked in several settings and I've seen some appalling practice some of which warranted a complaint to Ofsted. I have exposed some of these practices on MN threads and made it clear that I believed them to be unacceptable and what action I had taken. I'm all for whistleblowers being supported but not people who try to justify poor practice.

I've also had to handle some very difficult parents who had unrealistic expectations of me or the room staff, akin to the example above of the parent wanting a child to be prevented from being exposed to germs and much worse. When this has happened, I have listened carefully to the reasons behind the request and then, if appropriate, explained clearly and firmly why I can't accommodate it and made sure there was understanding and acceptance on both sides. Sometimes the parent just needs to be heard to feel OK.

I don't consider an early nappy change to be an unreasonable request, especially if the child is generally picked up at a predictable time. If the nappy were soiled it would need to be changed to ensure the child's comfort and well-being and the same applies to a child who will end up in wet clothes if they are not changed at this time.

It is not reasonable, in fact I feel it is negligent, to insist that a child leaves your setting in a nappy that you know will leak before they arrive home, especially given the outside temperatures at the moment and the effect wearing wet clothes could have on a small child.

Busy rooms are not an excuse. Ratios are the same however many children are there.

Nappy changes are a valuable part of caring for children. They don't detract from the time practitioners spend with children because they are time spent with children. They are an important part of the daily routine and can be wonderful opportunities for a couple of minutes quality one to one interaction with a child. There are opportunities for communication, for enjoyable little rituals like sharing songs and rhymes and building relationships.

I would be very concerned about a nursery where the staff didn't have time to carry out one extra nappy change 2.5 hours after the last one.

I would never send a baby to nursery in a night nappy. In the mornings the older DCs get breakfast while she has morning boob, then I make sure they are dressed while she has breakfast, then change her. She's usually been in a nappy for anything between 30-60 minutes by the time I drop her off.
They change quite early because they say some parents sadly do drop their children off in full disgusting night nappies.
If changing needs to be done on a rotation I would have thought that it would make sense to change all the children who are due to be picked up - in a way I'm not expecting preferential treatment as much as being deluded about the fact that children in nappies shouls be changed before pickup as standard.
When I worked in a nursery many moons ago it certainly was.

Nappy changes are a valuable part of caring for children. They don't detract from the time practitioners spend with children because they are time spent with children. They are an important part of the daily routine and can be wonderful opportunities for a couple of minutes quality one to one interaction with a child. There are opportunities for communication, for enjoyable little rituals like sharing songs and rhymes and building relationships.

Are you for real?

They are of course part of a routine. Did you take the other 2 with you every time? Did you all bond and sing songs whilst at it? Oh really

In saying that, I will sing a song for talk to the child im changing.

or

Look, the thing is 3 to 1 doesnt actually depict that you can change a child more than a certain amount of times a day (unless a poo) it just doesnt in the real world.

and the 3 to 1 is only for babies, not other nappy wearers by the way.

A nursery is not the way I would go in all honesty. Its an "institution" still. I'd opt for a childminder if I didnt have the funds for a Nanny.

Its a "profit" making industry. It usually "under-employs" or pays staff the most ridiculous wage ever. I happen to be one of the workers that actually does this as a vocation and really does care.

YANBU op. If you're using cloth nappies which don't last anywhere near as long as the disposables, and they are leaking as soon as you put dc in the car, then its not unreasonable to expect it to be changed before pick up. Its unlikely the majority are using cloth nappies, thus they wouldn't be needing them to be changed just before going home. It doesn't sound like a very child centered approach from the nursery.

Crikey just read back the last few posts. Having a conversation with yourself tinks?

as usual

Time tabled nappy changes would not inspire me with confidence