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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

MILs wedding day

255 replies

creampie · 26/01/2015 11:37

My MIL is getting remarried on a weekday afternoon. She has invited myself, DH, and our 2 DCs. I said my DH and I would attend but my DCs would be unlikely to get an authorised absence for this and so would just have to attend in the evening.

I had no idea whether or not the school would have authorised this or not, but I don't like the idea or taking them out willy-nilly and was hoping to keep attendance rates high in case we ever needed to take them out for some other unauthorised reason.

She's just phoned to say it's all fine, she's spoken to the school and they've authorised it. AIBU to be a bit Hmm about this?

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my2centsis · 27/01/2015 03:26

Agree she was completely unreasonable about ringing the school, that would piss me right off!

But... I think you are VU her wedding, something important to her, you class as something of non importance and don't want your Dc to be off school because something else more important to you may come up they you would rather take them out of school for?

I hope not to get a DIL like you

JessieMcJessie · 27/01/2015 06:58

eminybob

Ffs 99.99% of the population will not watch their gp get married

A wedding is not the most important thing in the world and certainly less important than an education

Quite - so the OP's DC are experiencing something rather unusual and therefore more special!

And they're hardly going to suffer severe and irreperable educational setbacks as a result of one afternoon off school!

OP I feel for your MIL. To remarry later in life is a life-affirming thing that should be celebrated to the max, and it's a good life lesson for your kids to understand that life goes on after death or divorce, that brides are not just young girls in princess dresses and that Grandma is a person in her own right, not to mention that witnessing the ceremony is an important way of showing them that her husband is an official member of the family (I bet he's not as bad as you make out...).

My guess is that the MIL is from the generation where taking people out of school for special occasions was no big deal and she was just excited about her wedding day and having the DGC there. She may even have taken you at face value and believed that you were disappointed that the DC would not get permission to take the afternoon off, so thought that she as the bride/grandma might have better luck at persuading them. Possibly thought she'd get hold of a school secretary closer to her own age or something? Misguided perhaps but with the best of intentions and serves you right that you and your DH got caught out using a convenient excuse.

I hope that the DC do attend and that you can put aside your bitterness and have a lovely time.

Tinkerball · 27/01/2015 07:18

Well eminybob I think family occasions like weddings are important, and it shouldn't be less do just because it's an older relative getting married. Missing one day of school is hardly going to have a detrimental effect on their education.

Eminybob · 27/01/2015 07:26

I disagree but that's just my opinion.

Don't you think though that she should have arranged the wedding for a non school day?

It makes me laugh because if the op was talking taking her child out of school for a holiday then everyone would have said oh no you can't do that blah blah blah

I think that a family holiday would actually be more rewarding and worthwhile for a child than going to a wedding.

My mil got remarried a few years ago and frankly it was just cringeworthy for all involved.

Floisme · 27/01/2015 07:33

My mil got remarried a few years ago and frankly it was just cringeworthy for all involved.
Why?
And so what, if she enjoyed it? Weddings can be a bit cheesy but I thought that was the point.
And what's it got to do with this wedding - unless you think all mother-in-law weddings are the same?

Eminybob · 27/01/2015 07:39

I know, I was just saying.

Actually my mil deeply regrets doing her wedding the way she did (big and white) but it just kind of escalated. Even she looks back at the pictures and cringes.

But like you say, that's nothing to do with this wedding. Just adding a mil wedding anecdote Smile

Hakluyt · 27/01/2015 07:40

What I want to know is why the OP thinks her presumably NT (because she hasn't said otherwise) school age children will cause a riot during a 20 minute wedding ceremony......

Presumably the next post from the OP will say that it's a full Nuptual Mass conducted by the Bishop with the choir of Westmister Cathedral, Elton John and Kiri Te Kanewa.......

LadyRainicorn · 27/01/2015 07:59

I'm not sure I'd come back to a thread where it had been decided that I was a spiteful woman with no decency who hated my mil so I wouldn't blame the op for not coming back. But who knows lets all speculate!

LadyRainicorn · 27/01/2015 08:00

I want to renew my vows with Elton John in attendance now...

Tanith · 27/01/2015 09:26

I wouldn't blame the Op for not coming back either. Reading her posts, and hers only, she hasn't said half of what has been attributed to her.

Some people are just making up stuff so they can put the boot in - how they have the nerve to accuse the Op of spite beats me!

Hakluyt · 27/01/2015 09:34

Maybe if the OP had not described the idea of her children missing a day's school for their grqndmother's wedding as "taking them out willy nilly" and not suggested that she wanted to save any authorised absences for an important occasion she might have been treated more sympathy? Just a thought.....

scarletforya · 27/01/2015 09:39

It's not a wedding, it's a 'remarriage' or whatever. Bit of a non event for the kids really.

MoanCollins · 27/01/2015 09:40

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pictish · 27/01/2015 09:45

I agree. I'm not going to bother trying to sympathise with or excuse the OP. As with anyone here, I can only take as I find...and I thought 'gosh...the warmth is just all encompassing isn't it?' Hmm

Mrsstarlord · 27/01/2015 09:48

Have I missed something? I assumed the OP meant that she was getting married having previously divorced, is that wrong?

Whats a remarriage?

Tanith · 27/01/2015 09:49

That's no excuse to make up half the thread, Hakluyt!

FlowerFairy2014 · 27/01/2015 09:51

A remarriage is not the same as a wedding blessing. You cannot in law marry twice unless you've been divorced in between! I think people need a dictionary. Words and definitions matter to ensure clear communication.

Remarriage means a new marriage to a new partner - eg the second husband. It can also mean someone married, divorced that man and then is marrying him again.

It does not mean some kind of later blessing of a marriage which in law still exists.

Eminybob · 27/01/2015 10:17

The fickleness of mumsnet really makes me chuckle sometimes.

This could have gone completely the other way last week.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/01/2015 11:21

Good post, JessieMcJessie, very pertinent.

It boils down to whether extended family matters to the OP or not. If it doesn't then she needn't feel aggrieved when said extended family doesn't bother with the grandchildren who weren't permitted to see GP marry. The children would enjoy it presumably - and their grandmother would like them to be there. What reason do you have for veto-ing this apart from trying to put your MIL in her 'place' and defer to you as 'The Mother'?

I do wonder where your husband is in all this, OP. You've been quiet about him and it's HIS mother so actually, he should get to decide since you are unable to get past your own petty dislike.

As others have said, grow a spine and stop hiding behind school policies because that particular apron-string has been well and truly cut.

creampie · 27/01/2015 13:22

Ok, I feel I need to give a bit more info in my defence here!

We had the original conversation on Sunday, during which my knee jerk reaction was "oh no a weekday, we've just had snotty letters about attendance being cracked down on, I'm not sure if the school will authorise this". I genuinely had no idea if they would or not, but the letter suggested they wouldn't. MIL wasn't particularly worried, insisting they'd see the inportance of a wedding, and wasn't really listening to our explanations of the new rules.

That evening DH and I had a chat about possibly it being for the best if they couldn't come due to school not authorising it as we wouldn't have to worry about upsetting FIL to be, who is ok but 30 years older than MIL and a bit of a victor meldrew character, who has fairly regular strops if things aren't done to his liking. It seemed to us that he had engineered the day so as to exclude as many of MIL family as possible by having it on a weekday, meaning it would be difficult for nieces, nephews and their children to attend as they live quite far away. We hasn't made up our minds whether or not to bring the kids for this reason, or whether to just take them to the dinner afterwards.

If we did decide to take them out of school, we had thought it may be easier just to go with "dentist appointment" rather than apply for permission and be refused, but since wedding is not til October we thought we'd see how others got on in the meanwhile with applying for absences and see closer to the time.

Next day, MIL phones me to say it's ok I've spoken to the school and they've authorised it. Giving the impression she had actually mentioned names, dates, and been given official permission. Until I came on here I didn't realise that wasn't possible so didn't call her up on it. After reading a few replies here saying she wouldn't have been able to do that I asked her again and she admitted she hadn't got official permission but the lady had said it should be ok.

This was the very next day so I'd had all of 2 hours in which I could have asked myself. I felt she'd jumped the gun and removed my chance to "lie" to the school about the dentist, if that's what we chose to do. She does feel as if she's someone with the gift of the fab, for whom people will do anything if she asks them, and so now she seemed a little smug in that of course the school had given her permission when they would have been very unlikely to do so for anyone else.

Our children will be 6 and 4 at time of wedding. Not likely to make much noise, but not likely to need to be much noise to make FIL cross.

DH had felt this was a good plan, was happy not to do anything yet, and didn't see the issue with them missing ceremony as long as they could go to the dinner. He was equally cross she had done this, as it just smacks of mummy stepping in and sorting out his problems, which he hates.

We do like FIL for the most part, but suspect MIL would be happier with someone less grumpy as she is quite young and out going at heart and he seems to age her. However would never say this as it's not really out place. He's certainly not abusive, just a bit of a misery guts.

MIL originally wanted a nice big family wedding on a weekend with all extended family, but it's gradually been eroded into 20 people at the registry office on a Tuesday. I feel a bit sorry for her, I understand why she wants her GC there but I probably am a bit cross that, once again, she's let everything be downgraded to something she doesn't want in order to please FIL and that if she was willing to give up all her wants, it kind if makes us think maybe we should go along with it too and not bring DC? It's like she wants us to be the ones to make a stand and bring DC when she has given up all the other things she wanted to have. This way it's us getting blamed and not her, IYSWIM? The stubborn side of me wants to bring them and give them a bag of party poppers, but I don't know if I can face the glares and snide comments forever after.

Sorry that's so long. Does that answer everything?

Genuinely thank you for the replies. You've made me think about my motivations in this. I think I'll explain all the above to her (minus not thinking they should even be getting married!), and see what she says

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BoomBoomsCousin · 27/01/2015 13:41

Talking to her (without saying she shouldn't be getting married!) sounds like a really good idea.

I think there's nothing wrong with her phoning the school to find out what the policy is though, especially if you had seemed anxious and unsure about it. People who are good at getting others to agree to things (not that that is what she did here) can be very useful to have around, provided she doesn't do it my being mean to them. There's no point being annoyed at her because she's often effective.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/01/2015 13:42

You want to choose your 'willy nilly' reasons for taking the children out of school. That's what makes you unfair, OP. It's your MIL's business as to the format of her wedding and whether you agree with it or not, it sounds to me as if you're looking for reasons to defend yourself in a big drip feed. It doesn't change how you think though, you still think you have all the power as the mother to dictate what your children will or will not do/attend.

MIL's marriage is not a good enough reason in your book. Be careful there because resentment can set it quickly and have consequences that you never imagined and would never have wanted.

Hakluyt · 27/01/2015 13:47

So what was the "taking them out willy nilly" and "keeping the attendance up in case you neede to take them out for some other reason" about?

creampie · 27/01/2015 13:51

"Willy nilly" was a poor choice of words. I do think deliberately choosing a weekday for a wedding kind of forces my hand though, and overrides any objections I might have for children missing school other than for medical reasons, which is what I meant by taking them out for other reasons (I certainly wouldn't normally take them out for a holiday or for avoidable things, usually).

Surely it's no different to picking a weekday for working people which dictates what that person should use their annual leave for?

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 27/01/2015 14:04

Just how old is step-fil to be? 30 years older than MIL who must be in her 50s at least judging by other ages..??

Blimey.

you were all thinking it too