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to forego breastfeeding because I have very large breasts

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AlfieMoonOnaStick · 21/01/2015 17:28

I've read and re-read the literature that breast is best and the more natural: Stronger bond between me and our child, boosted immune system, cheaper,lol. And under normal circumstances I would likely go this route, regardless of pros and cons for formula. After all it is what we as a species have done for millenia (and am yet to see a bunny or indeed any other member of the natural world stocking up on Cow's Gate). Boot, my circumstances are a little removed from "normal", as are my boobies and I also ahve propriety to consider.

I have inherited old fashioned conservative American in-laws whose antiquated views would bankrupt the coffers of Cash in the Attic while almost making the Ahmish look risque. They still use words like courting and coffers -which I borrowed! So I am mindful of causing offence or doing anything they might deem disreputable. Such as talking while chewing or "obscenely" bf their grandchild. While at the same time not actually able to discuss the matter in full with mil who refers to a vagina as the mouth of creation.... in adult conversation. Believe you me, you don't want the remainder of the sentence it sprung from.

So as a consequence I dont even know if dh drank from the bottle, her breast or, that deep well of piety she submerges herself in. And he was too young to remember, so I don't have a clue how she might feel about the idea of walking in on her grandchild being airlifted onto the Hindenburg -that's the left nork, btw. Minus the explosion...for now.

Oh and before Im accused of being melodramatic, I'll just put that slight exaggeration into sharper perspective. I've always been overabundantly endowed (to channel my mil) but as of third trimester I'm involuntarily bra-free (and grievously leotardy - long story). As now my breasts are more significant, space wise that is, than my bump; splay somewhat out to my sides (but are not full at the top at all) and are past waist/crotch level
:-*> ...when standing, unclothed - just to be clear.

I'm on the short side yes. And no, not a size zero super hero, lol. But NONE of my extra weight is "downstairs". So look like a small planet on stumpy stilts (or what they might call in modern America an..... American), but with marginally more mobility if not grace and thankful for the worst winter in recent records. As it allows me to take up fulltime residence in heavy coats and ponchoes yay!! Because heaven knows the incessant gawping, pointing etc has become OTT. The BR discussion with hubby is the other white elephant in the maternity room. But at the moment am trying to put the baby ahead of the boobs, if only figuratively speaking!

Am torn, as whether to cop out and rely on formula milk. If so would you go organic? Even if i did bf I wouldnt dare do this in public. Look at what happened in celeb big brother the other day; would be mortified by similar incident. So we would be attempting to express into a bottle via pump, as best as possible. Anybody warn me of major difficulties for this, or is it do you need a Phd in physics? Otherwise, why not just take the next step and be done with it all together and just buy in? Or am I just being defeatist and lazy?

Alternatively, wet nursing was another option I looked at even if only for a few months, but dh is not keen on idea, has stopped making jokes now and moody on subject and developments in general. Will that automatically resign me to the crumby mummy parenting blacklist? One mother, I heard, referred to formula as arsenic with Saatchi marketing (presumably pre-Nigella). I wouldn't like to think I was poisoning my soon-to-be little one just because of self absorption, if I am being self absorbed that is. end essay. tia

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BigRedBall · 22/01/2015 13:31

I wonder what she calls breastfeeding!

Sipping from the righteous fountains of the daughters' of Eve?!

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 22/01/2015 13:37

J/JJ/K cup here. That doesn't cause a problem. I agree with two tops or a proper nursing top to minimise exposure. I remember being out at about 6 weeks and meeting DH in a restaurant. It took him several minutes to realise that I was breastfeeding DS. I've fed in public and in front of all my friends and family. Left the room for colleagues.

I'd suggest not going out too soon as its bloody hard work. Resting and mastering feeding is all you want to do in the very early days.

If you want to breastfeed then try it, there's nothing much to lose. If you're using mil as an excuse and you just don't want to do it, then perhaps admit that to yourself. At 5 months, I've ended up with a baby who's ff during the day and bf at night (although not due to modesty issues), it works really well for us and I'm glad I perservered through the initial pain/discomfort.

troyandabedintheafternoon · 22/01/2015 13:53

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Trickydecision · 22/01/2015 13:56

Have I missed something? I don't get why you are currently 'involuntarily bra-free' and what does 'grievously leotardy' mean? Wouldn't you be more comfortable with a bra?

Another successful breast-feeder here with bosoms large enough to have had a breast reduction later.

OohLaLaa · 22/01/2015 13:58

Double GGs here. Not had a problem with it at all, I still feed discreetly in public.

Plus with big boobs it's easy to master the laying down, hands free to stroke their hair read MN, position

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Trickydecision · 22/01/2015 14:44

I see, Troy, I was never that huge, fortunately. Where does the leotard come in?

nocoolnamesleft · 22/01/2015 14:54

Have to love the OP's style of writing!

Okay, what's the purpose of feeding a baby? A happy healthy baby and a happy healthy mother. Yes, the perfect option is the happy healthy breastfeeding baby of a happy healthy mother. But, better a happy healthy mother who is formula feeding than a wretchedly miserable mother who is forcing herself to breastfeed but hating it/making herself poorly by skipping medicines etc

If you want to breastfeed, please go for it. If you're not sure, then give it a try (suck it and see!). But if you really don't want to, don't. But please let it be your decision, not that of your MIL.

JugglingFromHereToThere · 22/01/2015 15:10

Excellent answr nocool

annoyedofnorwich · 22/01/2015 15:52

No useful comments, and someone may have already said this, but I'm dying to know what the right nork is called, given the name of the left one!
In other topics, I found your suggestions of how your MIL may have fed your husband really quite entertaining!

AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 18:13

bigredball: loooool. "Mouth of creation" was just a standout for her. She doesn't assault the english language with EVERY euphemism haha. But needless to say would have had an aneurysm in the same room as Katie Price on CBB (guilty pleasure along with herring and banana on ryvita at the moment). Did you hear her?

The thing is if you slipped that "Sipping from the righteous fountains of the daughters' of Eve" into a conversation, just as a piss-take, she wouldnt even miss a beat asking you to explain the phrase. She would know exactly what you were talking about! haha.

Then, instantly convinced of your upstanding character: "bigred was acquainted with the good book knew who Eve was (nevermind that Eve appears in the first pages) and all", ensure that you were betrothed to an eligible bachelor with matching diction before Eve's milk could curdle! Do you want that, do you? lol BF it is then or better yet nipple-nosh for insurance!

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VoldysGoneMouldy · 22/01/2015 18:15

J cup at my biggest, breastfed for three years, no issues.

Sod your MIL. In fact, sod everyone - it's about you and your baby.

If you don't want to breastfeed, then don't. But don't let that decision be made by anyone other than you. And that includes your boob size.

AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 18:19

JugglingFromHereToThere: +1 nocoolnames thanks for being able to look at it without your emotions etc in the way. I will let you know how it all pans out in the end, anyway.

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QuintlessShadows · 22/01/2015 18:24

I am thinking the Mouth of Creation needs a good dentist.

Aside from that, what does her antiquarian and abnormal demeanor have to do with your infant feeding choices?

Are you always this subdued and keen to let others make the rules for your behaviour?

AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 18:25

annoyedofnorwich: I don't have a name for the right one. The left nork is slightly bigger and alwazs getting into scrapes (casserole dishes, soups etc) and needs a telling off. So I had to christen it! lol Any suggestions would be gratefully received. But no names of British MPs haha. How about your girls?

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londonlivvy · 22/01/2015 18:29

http://www.nursingbra-shop.co.uk

I was a 32j when breastfeeding, and there are plenty of sizes bigger than that, available to you. I think my sister was a 34L. So I wouldn't let bra sizes affect what you want to do. As for mil, well, it's not her baby. There will be hundreds of decisions you will need to make as parents over the years about how you want to raise your child and whilst I think it's admirable to want to bear in mind how that will affect family relationships, ultimately you have to do what you and your dh think is right for your family.

AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 18:29

Quintless. To look at me and how people initially respond you'd think I was an alpha female Queen Bee type. But I'm very much a people pleaser and take into considerations everyone's feelings. Cheesy I know.

If I was in the CBB house right now. I'd likely be Patsy Kensit or the female Cheggers. I am from the UK btw. Ex-pat.

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WoTmania · 22/01/2015 18:32

You could try getting to a BF support group (LLL for example) there will usually be some mums there who are bigger of boob and can give you some tips or just tell you about their experience.

AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 18:38

If you've ever couch surfed in your youth or used a similar site. Have you noticed how it;s very difficult to not socialise with the people you are staying with?

Well, I'm living with mil and it is her house. Big shift in balance of power right there! I definitely do things with her all the time, in and outside of the home, and I imagine that my having to try and bf on the fly in the near future will impact on her and our relationship.

Thus I wondered about just dodging that howitzer (possible nork nickname) and ff, but with all the brainwashing propaganda swirling around concerning ff I wondered if I might usurp Josie Cunningham as the Queen of slummy mummies. That's the root of the angst. If I had catalogue model size boobs there would be no internal debate for me. I would just do it, as I would make less of a spectacle of me and her.

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AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 18:42

WoT: what? I had no idea such a thing existed. Details please, if you have any.

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AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 18:51

Troy, are you talking uk sizes? If so thank you for taking over the baton in the freak of the week relay. I'm teetering over the mid-alphabet mark but I won't be in P cup territory (if the uk size guide is correct) by any stretch of the imagination or boob."P"hew! sorry lol.

I found out early that it's not the breast itself but rather the too-small bra that does the damage, as it redistributes the weight incorrectly across the back. Which is why I am making do with leotards; but the fabric cooks you like it wasn't designed for gymnastics but vying for 1st place on the Great British Bake Off!!

So, so, sorry about your permanent injuries. Eek. There really is a lack of advice out there and the companies deflect legal responsibility like questions from Paxman, making it hard to sue! Yet it's not as if YOU manufactured the bra and injured yourself! Duh!

Blunt question. Was it easier to bond with the third, that was bottle-fed? I know you said being able to actually make eye contact played a part, but obviously I guess you are just as connected with all three, ultimately?

Oh and TestingTesting mentioned not going out too early. When did you venture out? I anticipate that being the most problematic period because I plan on responding to the baby's natural random feeding pattern rather than imposing a "three square meals a day" policy lol

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AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 19:09

Tricky: the leotard is just a hare-brained (but think Brer Rabbit) attempt to minimise movement and bring back the 80s. It's not a bra substitute.

There is a lot of boobsway under clothes if braless. Not to mention chuffing chafing. A tucked in tee will just get uprooted and ride up.. But a leotard being the real, one true onesie stays in place and reigns the girls in somewhat. But has no respect for any lack of bladder control! crosses legs

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AlfieMoonOnaStick · 22/01/2015 19:22

Latara: thanks for those posts. I think I fall victim too easily for the propaganda on both sides of the bf vs ff debate.

Just because bf is touted as the umbilical cord of bonding, doesn't mean that a ff baby will not bond with the mother. But one can lose sight of the truth when presented with emotional arguments. Your story brought that home to me and sure dh will be more involved with feeding if bf alternatives or adaptations available. Still searching for the bf vs ff threads tho for other factors to weigh up.

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WoTmania · 22/01/2015 19:23

La Leche League USA: www.lllusa.org/

If you are on FB search for la leche league or LLL and your hometown and a group should come up or just google. Not sure what other BF support groups there are in the US.

If you are birthing in hospital they often have peer counsellors and/or lactation consultants too but getting antenatal info and support might be a good idea in your situation.

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