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to be apopleptic about this wedding date?

235 replies

MerryChrisMiSantapologist · 12/01/2015 08:58

So, DD15 turns 16 on 26 May. Since before Christmas, DH, his parents and I have been discussing having a surprise 'sweet sixteen' party for her at a local nice pub/restaurant with an upstairs party room. His parents, along with their longtime best friends (DMIL2 and DFIL2 - the families have been close forever) were here just after Christmas. We told them, including DMIL2, about our plans and the date we were planning - Saturday 23 May.

After they got back home, DMIL2 was talking to her DS2's fiancee A, and mentioned we were planning a sweet 16 for DD on Memorial Day weekend (we're in the USA). A nodded and smiled and said how nice...then not two days later booked (with nonrefundable deposits) the venue for her wedding and reception - the day after we were planning on having the party! They've been engaged since October of 2009 and NOW they have to get married quickfast (and no, no pregnancy involved)?!?

There is minor backstory in that NONE OF US like her - DMIL2 and DFIL2 tolerate her because their son D likes her, but she has managed to be blithely rude to each of us in our turn. Let's just say this wedding, with its BLACK TIE REQUIRED, nine bridesmaids, choreographed dances and more than one vocal performance by the bride-to-be, is all set up to be the "A Show" and its attendees no more than set-dressing.

So. Not only has she scheduled this party so as to make the first-planned party impossible - we live 300+ miles away from that part of the family and it would be impossible for them to afford/do the travel required for both events, even if we put the party back or forward a week - she has done it on purpose and...no under 18s are allowed, so our DS13 and DD15 are unwelcome. But I bet my DNephews 3 and 1 and Dnieces 4 and 1 will be right up there in it.

I am so angry with her because now there's nothing I can do - the deposits are nonrefundable and alea iacta est and all of that rot - but would I BU to either slap her one across the chops next time I see her, phone her up and ask her WTF, phone DMIL2 to ask same, or possibly the most cathartic, glue her face on a heavy bag and use it for kickboxing?

And now WHAT THE HELL do I do for my daughter?? We can still have our party but 2/3 of the people she would most want to attend won't be able to!!

OP posts:
bigbluebus · 12/01/2015 12:47

This is only the 2nd time I have heard of a Sweet Sixteen party. The 1st time was when a friend of mine was invited to one in Peterborough - so obviously they have reached our shores Hmm.

I don't get it really, but then I don't get all the fuss and expense that goes into Proms or even Bridezillas weddings. It doesn't make the marriage last any longer.

As others have said OP, either go ahead with your date and accept that Bridezillas family members will not be there or change it so they can come.Not convinced your DD will be bothered at the non-attendance of such shallow people.

elelfrance · 12/01/2015 12:49

Are you serious? You think that a bride chose her wedding date to deliberately upstage her parents' friends' granddaughter's birthday meal? Okaaaay.

Guess what OP, the world doesn't revolve around you and your daughter. I'm sure there are many reasons why she may have chosen that date, and I doubt very much that your daughter was a factor.

+1

forwarding · 12/01/2015 12:51

MIL2 is the husband's parents' friend.

It's the husband's parents' friends' son's fiancée who is the evil bjatch.

(Did I get all my apostrophes in the right places?)

Do keep up dear....

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 12/01/2015 12:58

OP - I think you will have to accept the fact that this is a very deliberate act on the part of the bride to be to ensure that you will not attend her wedding. As you will be off celebrating your DD's 16th birthday. Even if you move the celebration, you are unlikely to leave her on her actual birthday are you?

She is just "Not that into you" or your family it would appear

To be honest, it sounds like a major "Win" for your both. You escape having her as a guest and attending her wedding tying up your Memorial Day weekend. I feel sorry for your actual MIL/PIL who will presumably be the ones put under pressure to attend both events.

For what it's worth, I've been to a US wedding on Memorial Day. It was not good. Everyone left straight after dinner to drive home / to their actual holiday plans as soon as it was decently possible. The bride and groom had a wedding band playing to an empty room and the whole wedding was done and dusted due to lack of interest by 11pm.

noitsbecky · 12/01/2015 13:06

Wedding trumps birthday parties, and Sweet 16s are naff.

Thumbwitch · 12/01/2015 13:07

Do you want to go to this woman's wedding? If not, then that's one problem solved.
Would your not-really-ILs be coming to your DD's sweet sixteen party? Would she be expecting them to? I don't know much about them, but I generally thought it was meant to be friends more than family...

If you wanted to move the party, move it to the weekend before. Still close enough to her birthday (ok, 10 days prior) but more importantly you get your party done before Yhe Wedding. Shame about losing the public holiday to The Wedding, but you could do something else nice that weekend instead.

I get that you believe that "A" has done this deliberately, but isn't it possible that she's had a cancellation call and just taken the date, and it's a sorry coincidence? I'm also having trouble coping with the idea that she could get such a great place at such short notice, unless it's unfeasibly expensive and only about 10 people could afford it!

YesIDidMeanToBeSoRudeActually · 12/01/2015 13:17

"Grand Entrance –How will you enter the room? What song do you want playing? Will you have a red carpet entrance? Whatsweet sixteen jewelrywill you be wearing? Will you come in by yourself or with your VIP’s and closest friends? Maybe a paparazzi entrance with photography everywhere? Work with theDJto think of something original for you"

FUCK ME! Shock

evmil · 12/01/2015 13:21

I lived in America for a while and DH is American so i do understand that the party is a big deal to you and your DD

However, you are talking about your mother in laws best friend. Obviously i don't know a lot about your family dynamics put provided your actual in laws can make it then i really don't see a huge problem. Is she really central to the party? Will DD be that upset if she doesn't go? Surely your DD's friends are more important than her grandmothers?

Also, as others have said, she may not have done it deliberately. Often i am told dates of things that aren't really relevant to me (i assume she wouldn't have been invited) and then promptly forget them. And as for why the wedding is this year maybe their is a change in finances or something which means they can afford it now.

flowery · 12/01/2015 13:29

That stuff about how you will enter the room is hilarious. Mobility issues aside, is "Put one foot in front of the other" not sufficient in terms of a room-entering strategy?

wobblyweebles · 12/01/2015 13:36

I know this is off on a tangent but how have they managed to book a 'showy' wedding venue on Memorial Day weekend this year at just a few months' notice? In the UK you'd probably have to book that about five years in advance

Because in the US you can get married pretty much anywhere, whereas in the UK you have to get married in a licensed wedding venue.

MrsHathaway · 12/01/2015 13:43

I've been watching My Super Sweet Sixteen on MTV recently - party budgets are typically $300,000 (yup, three hundred thousand dollars).

Anyway, as OP doesn't appear to have been back, I call REVERSE and OP is the bride to be and good luck to her with that bunch of loons.

ilovesooty · 12/01/2015 13:46

$300000?

m0therofdragons · 12/01/2015 13:48

Sweet sixteens really aren't a thing in the UK. Wedding trumps kid's birthday. I doubt bride and groom to be gave your dd's party a second thought and I imagine they had that date in mind for a while and it suits them. Get a grip.

BalloonSlayer · 12/01/2015 13:50

Sounds like she doesn't like you either and she has done this so you and your DH won't be able to come to the wedding.

So?

Gruntfuttock · 12/01/2015 13:52

flowery "That stuff about how you will enter the room is hilarious. Mobility issues aside, is "Put one foot in front of the other" not sufficient in terms of a room-entering strategy?"

Passé, I'm afraid. These days one hops into one's party.

Coumarin · 12/01/2015 14:03

How I'm imagining the OPs dd.

to be apopleptic about this wedding date?
Coumarin · 12/01/2015 14:05

Or maybe something a bit more 'down to earth'.

to be apopleptic about this wedding date?
Thumbwitch · 12/01/2015 14:09

Give the OP a chance, she's probably still asleep! She said give her 6h, it's only been 5...

And I'm often on here until stupid o'clock in the morning without quite realising - I'll look and go "Oh it's half past midnight, must go to bed soon, I'll just check this thread... shit, it's 1:45am, how did that happen, I really must go to sleep, I'll just do this... FUCK how did it get to be 3am?? I NEED to go to bed!"
It's not that difficult, sadly! Blush

MrsHathaway · 12/01/2015 14:12

WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS??

MerryChrisMiSantapologist · 12/01/2015 14:14

*Yes, your SILIL does not sound like a Nice Person to intentionally book her wedding knowing that you are planning a family occasion the same date, knowing that a) birthdays cant be moved and b) family cant afford to do both even if you move the date and c) that attending a family wedding will trump a family birthday, even if its a 'big' birthday

And then i'd guess that if you did hold it near the wedding venue the evening before, dd's friends couldnt come.*

Whoever this was got it in one. Grin Yes, Americans are nut-tastic about traveling to weddings/parties/things, and as long as I've been alive (43 years and ticking) one's sixteenth birthday party has been...well, not as big as eighteen but definitely occasion for a larger party than usual. I'm not talking about a big quinceanera ball-style party, with foofy gowns, tuxes on boys, and that, just a large group of both friends and family she loves but seldom gets to see. Oh--and that being Memorial Day weekend, we nearly always have a BBQ that weekend and more often than not, PILS and PILS2 attend. If we did it near the wedding venue that would cut out all DD's friends and my family, for whom instead of driving five hours it would mean driving eight and a half. And oh god NO the party is going to be NOTHING like that. Just a lot of friends and family in the upstairs, cozy room of a local pub with catered food and some music to hang out by. DD is not into the Big Foofy Dance thing in the slightest.

However, SIL2B did me a bit of a favor by making the wedding under-18 so obviously I can't go as I'm not leaving the kids by themselves over a long weekend at 13 and just-under 16. Was having a bit of a vent, mostly, over how A did that thing she usually does over the past nine years I've known her (thinks only of herself) only this time is the first time it's directly affected me. As for the 'how do you plan that much in two days' it's not really the wedding she has to plan; every conversation with her for the past few years has been about how "D and I have decided for our wedding..." while D stands by with a mildly embarrassed look on his face. She's been planning Her Perfect Wedding since she was, like, six years old.

On the MIL2 thing - she really is like a second MIL to me, the families are that close. All four of the ILs have been friends since before DH was born. Four kids in MIL's family, three in MIL2's, and they were all raised pretty much next door, all their lives, as siblings. I'm Aunt Merry to MIL2's grandkids as well as to MIL's.

Just heard from DH that MIL is narked off about the wedding date too. DD loves all of her grandparents and, as the party is going to be a family and friends party, yes is going to miss them being there. I haven't decided what to do about the party yet. I can't hold it much earlier in May because the restaurant gets booked up tight for college graduation/new-doctorate parties. Much later and the kids will be out of school and off on vacations. Going to have to have a think about when to have the party but, in the meantime, since DH will be the only one of us going to the D&A-stravaganza, I'm going to have to demand he take good notes!!

Oh--and yes, in the US your licensed officiant comes to you and not vice versa. She's having the ceremony in...what I guess is called a Stately Home over there, at 2pm, and then (quoting from the computer-printed cut-out Save the Date card) Grande Reception Ball at 5pm. Nothing in between, nowhere to hang out in the vicinity. So, a bunch of people hanging out in their finery with their thumbs up their butts (figuratively speaking, haha).

(Also, not a wind-up, penis beaker, naice ham, Korean lady, and not a reverse IABU.)

OP posts:
MrsHathaway · 12/01/2015 14:14

I really dislike this.

FightOrFlight · 12/01/2015 14:26

I demand a video upload of the dancing bridesmaids and singing bride. It's my basic human right as a Mumsnetter bangs gavel

ilovesooty · 12/01/2015 14:41

You really don't care for the bride to be, do you?

OstentatiousBreastfeeder · 12/01/2015 14:42

Well, you don't seem to be apoplectic anymore Smile

OstentatiousBreastfeeder · 12/01/2015 14:43

(quoting from the computer-printed cut-out Save the Date card)

Computer printed? That peasant.

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