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to post a link to an Oldham sponsor that will continue to support them even with Ched Evans?

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mrleebob · 05/01/2015 15:59

If it would be, please ignore this.

If not, here it is. www.cmsolicitors.co.uk

Plenty of contact details too. :-)

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timtam23 · 06/01/2015 20:27

Have signed the other petition as well (linked above)

The chief exec of Web Applications UK has made another statement, seems they've been inundated with emails since saying they'd continue to sponsor OAFC. He is taking the Universal Declaration of Human Rights absolutely literally - apparently CE has "the right to free choice of employment" and this means no stance should be taken against OAFC. Isn't this a bit ridiculous? Following his reasoning I could say OK, 20k a week sounds alright, I'll choose a job with OAFC too thanks and if they say no it's a breach of my human rights? Or I make a free choice to work for Web Applications UK cos it's, er, my basic human right to do so and they should not intervene?

ilovesooty · 06/01/2015 20:28

Just been reading some reader comments in the Guardian. If I see one more post about him having served his time I shall scream.

ilovesooty · 06/01/2015 20:29

I wonder how many convicted rapists Web Applications UK employ?

TrojanWhore · 06/01/2015 20:30

"Actually the longer this goes on the more I think they might sign him."

I'm not so sure. On Sunday, they were completely wrong footed. I think that there were people who had hoped 'give it a few weeks it'll all blow over, and once it's a done deal people will come round to it'

Then it leaked, and it's becoming ever clearer that the revulsion to having children cheering a rapist isn't flash in the pan. Signing him will brand a club, that at least pays lip service to being family friendly, as "The Rapists" in perpetuity. And it's not going away, and is indeed now calling for the FA to man up and make proper rulings that will exclude all convicts from professional football.

I bet they wished they'd never even heard of him.

Icimoi · 06/01/2015 20:31

The solicitors referred to in the OP have also said they won't withdraw sponsorship. People might like to give them their views on that one.

ilovesooty · 06/01/2015 20:33

I wonder if they've actually offered him a contract and are trying to work out how to get out of it?

timtam23 · 06/01/2015 20:37

On the other thread I mentioned that Web App UK partner OAFC in projects with local children. No way would I want my kids involved with this pairing (we are not in Oldham but not that far away either). I really don't get why they feel a need to completely remove themselves from the responsibility of any decision making. The chief exec has made statements about abhorring rape etc etc but doesn't think it's any of his business despite being in a partnership.

Maybe WAUK should offer CE a job, "free choice of employment" and all that.

ilovesooty · 06/01/2015 20:44

I don't think I'd want this company working with any school I was involved with.

meditrina · 06/01/2015 20:46

WAUK seem to be confusing 'right to work' (exists) with 'entitlement to secure employment in a particular sector' (doesn't exist, never has, never will).

If they are prepared to publish utter bollocks when they must know they're in the public eye, are they actually any good at anything?

ilovesooty · 06/01/2015 20:47

Their skills in marketing are surely open to question.

M00nUnit · 06/01/2015 20:48

Signed! Thanks for sharing mrleebob.

YonicSleighdriver · 06/01/2015 20:50

Signed new petition too though would've liked the wording slightly different, however, hopefully the FA will feel the need to respond, it's already at 22k

FFSletmechangemyname · 06/01/2015 21:05

Signed both.

I am just beyond words tbh.

I am just Shock that despite being convicted, admitting he had only known her 2 mins before raping her, he is still trying to maintain he did nothing wrong.

I honestly wonder if he is a sociopath/psychopath because there cannot be any other explanation for his behaviour.

NiceViper · 06/01/2015 21:22

Do we need a MN bingo night? Hosted at a Mecca, of course.

(Unfortunately, I do not need a rainwater solution, but I hope any MNers in the NW would consider getting a Verlin quotation for works, especially if they have awkward crevices).

PasstheDaimbars · 06/01/2015 21:45

Referring to one of the posts in the other thread about how this could be an element of "Why should we be pushed around by s bunch of stroppy women who probably don't even like football?"

'they' want to believe that it's only stroppy women, when in reality it a lot of men as well saying No. And again if this is such a witch hunt why hasn't someone started a 'let Ched the Rapist play for....' They won't because they know either they won't get the same level of support, and prove that this is the silent majority finally saying No, enough, or it will turn in to a misogynistic PR nightmare.

TrojanWhore · 06/01/2015 21:49

"Referring to one of the posts in the other thread about how this could be an element of "Why should we be pushed around by s bunch of stroppy women who probably don't even like football?" "

"They" need to read more widely then. Unless they think sites like ARRSE (mainly blokes) are posting a parody, not really condemning the proposed signings.

timtam23 · 06/01/2015 21:55

Daimbars there are one or two petitions on change.org on just that subject - but they have very little support. I think one has about 2,000 sigs and the other has 29! The comments on them are as you would expect and would lead me to bang my head against a wall (again)

On a brighter note I've just watched Ch 4 news and they had a news report followed by a feature, Charlie Webster (who resigned as patron of SUFC over their CE incident) talking a lot of sense and being very sensitively interviewed by Matt Frei I think? There was also a football agent who was almost sterotypical in his pro-CE view, "he's served his time", "why should he apologise when he said he didn't do it" etc etc.

ILovePud · 06/01/2015 22:03

I think Charlie Webster comes out of this really well. I think she's done a lot to advance the voice of women in sports broadcasting and she has been very brave and principled in speaking out on the CE case and about sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.

clam · 06/01/2015 22:07

"Said he didn't do it," my arse! He did it, he just disagrees with the laws that say that what he "did" was rape. What are these blokes on?
I'm also wanting to scream at the number of people who just trot out these cliches of "he's served his time," (no, he hasn't), and "wait until his appeal is heard," (what appeal - he's been refused leave to appeal twice and his third request is highly likely to fail too), and "witch hunt" and "mob rule" and so forth. Also, why are people so fixated on him having to play football to avoid a life on the dole? There are plenty of other jobs he could do, that don't promote him as being God's gift to women (which is what got him into this mess in the first place. Along with his non-existent decent values.

iamtheeggman · 06/01/2015 22:08

If CM Solicitors are legal advisers to OAFC and shirt sponsors, they have probably put themselves in a very difficult position from a conflict of interest point of view. I don't have a great deal of sympathy for them.

Willferrellisactuallykindahot · 06/01/2015 22:15

60,000 signatures! Smile

In other developments, The independent is saying that Ched's family (ie. Daddy in law) have said that the will cover any sponsorship losses if he gets signed to Oldham.

www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/ched-evans-to-oldham-athletic-family-will-pay-up-to-pave-the-way-for-deal-with-league-one-club-9961432.html

Poor Ched, its all just so unfair, isn't it Hmm

What the actual fuck is wrong with Karl Massey?

YonicSleighdriver · 06/01/2015 22:19

What the fuck?

ILovePud · 06/01/2015 22:19

I know, what father wants his daughter to be engaged to a rapist? You'd have thought he'd have been doing everything he could to keep him out of her life.

PasstheDaimbars · 06/01/2015 22:20

That really makes me laugh, while banging my head against a wall.

He says he didn't do it, except he did and he was arrested because of what he said. Can they not say the reality, that he thinks what he did wasn't rape.

Guessing they're afraid that saying that might mean they have to explain what they think rape is.

And that would mean facing up to some unpleasant truths about their own behaviour.

LineRunner · 06/01/2015 22:22

A lot