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To ask if anyone is setting up a fb page to discuss Tricky Dicky?

627 replies

IAmOnMyBike · 03/01/2015 20:53

It seems we are not allowed to speak about anything negative elsewhere. Please do not speak badly of Tricky Dicky and co.

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Sallystyle · 04/01/2015 19:59

Someone hasn't watched EE for a while! Sharon hasn't had a good story line since she has been back Grin

AndreaDislikesScammers · 04/01/2015 20:00

Ubik1

"So you are trying to save 'the Huns' from themselves?"

Not sure that one is possible tbh.

Give if you want, don't give it you don't want to. At least now the fundraising page has (eventually) been updated to reflect the truth. From now on people have more information on which to base their decision whether or not to give money.

Not sure why the people who don't like the thread keep calling the people who donated 'hun'. That phrase stopped being used a long time ago here on MN.

Hmm
AndreaDislikesScammers · 04/01/2015 20:01

U2TheEdge

Guilty as charged!

Last watched it a few years back Blush

Cornettoninja · 04/01/2015 20:03

Fundraising/charities are pretty tightly regulated in this country with policies outlining best practice and legal and financial obligations. These exist to protect the culture around donating so people don't feel suspect about what their money is being spent on. Whether you choose to disregard it or not, distrust hurts the charity sector which is precisely why we have these things in place.

The uk in general is pretty hot on what is spent where and most organisations running off the back of other people's money appreciate that enough to make public breakdowns of their spending.

My point is that once any fundraiser gains momentum then it will be scrutinised and imo rightly so.

aermingers · 04/01/2015 20:04

I don't think an actual crime has been committed now that they have updated the pages to reflect what they're collecting for. However I think they may be on dicey ground with the claims they are 'setting up a charity' and collecting on that basis. It would probably be best for everyone if the police just had a quiet word, asked them to cease fundraising, they donate something to RMF and then just keep what they've raised so far.

Ubik1 · 04/01/2015 20:05

I don't usually use it. But great play was made of 'the Huns' wasting their child benefit, weans starving etc because they were donating to this campaign.

So Hmm yourself

AndreaDislikesScammers · 04/01/2015 20:10

Ubik1

But not on this thread, hence my comment. Hun.

Smile
Ubik1 · 04/01/2015 20:20

No not on this thread. But the sentiment remains the same: that the folk donating need to be told how to spend their money.

iamtheeggman · 04/01/2015 20:21

"At least now the fundraising page has (eventually) been updated to reflect the truth. From now on people have more information on which to base their decision."

Except it hasn't Ubik1. It continues to refer to funding living costs in New York, which are insured.I know no one seems to give as much of a shit about this as i do, but it is not true to say that the funding page has been updated to reflect the truth.

crumblebumblebee · 04/01/2015 20:24

I agree with Ubik re: the sentiment that people are somehow so thick that they need the keyboard crusaders to point them right. Some people just aren't getting that people are still choosing to donate even in light of the new information and that is ok.

Ubik1 · 04/01/2015 20:26

I don't think I posted that

But you know....carry on with whatever you think you are doing

iamtheeggman · 04/01/2015 20:27

Very interesting...

To ask if anyone is setting up a fb page to discuss Tricky Dicky?
AndreaDislikesScammers · 04/01/2015 20:29

Ubik1

"No not on this thread."

So why bother using the term trying to make a point? This is Thread 3 and nobody has used the phrase since Thread 1.

"But the sentiment remains the same: that the folk donating need to be told how to spend their money"

Nobody is telling anyone how to spend their money, just wanting them to be fully aware of what they are spending it on. Why is that wrong? If people finally have all the information at their disposal surely that is a good thing both for them and the fundraiser.

Ubik1 · 04/01/2015 20:30

Yes crumble

iamtheeggman · 04/01/2015 20:31

Sorry Ubik1 - my mistake. Should have been Andreaetc

iamtheeggman · 04/01/2015 20:33

As far as The poppy appeal and the big issue are concerned, the fact that they are registered charities means that they are subject to accounting rules and other scrutiny. In this case, because it is not a registered charity, that means people should be more sceptical rather than less.

AndreaDislikesScammers · 04/01/2015 20:33

iamtheeggman

It was me who said that - I was referring to the fact they have finally updated the fundraising page, albeit 24 hours after the event.

No it's not crystal clear as the update is just a sidebar and the original info still claims pride of place. That, however, is not the fault of the fundraiser it's the crappy way the GoGet site is set up, sadly.

iamtheeggman · 04/01/2015 20:34

You are very forgiving, Andrea. They could have taken the whole thing down…

Nerf · 04/01/2015 20:38

But why do you need a closed group or threads on here to helpfully tell people they are donating without understanding the full facts (even though none of you have any insider information) ? Or endless discussion about it, why not just report it somewhere (no idea where as I can't think of anyone who'd be interested, but may be wrong). A closed group on FB with 147 members (all names visible btw ) to alert the public? Confused

nutsinwinter · 04/01/2015 20:40

Nerf, people moved to FB because they wanted to keep discussing it, and the threads here were deleted by MNHQ.

As to why people want to discuss it, well, people talk about all sorts online, on MN and elsewhere.

AndreaDislikesScammers · 04/01/2015 20:43

iamtheeggman

"You are very forgiving, Andrea. They could have taken the whole thing down…"

... and should have done imo, but they haven't.

It would have been easy to set up another account donating directly to RMH but it wouldn't have been publicised in the same way the current fundraiser has been. More honest, less publicity/money for the charity.

Dear lord, I'm in danger of becoming Devil's Advocate at this rate!

LilMissSunshine9 · 04/01/2015 20:46

From the fundraising page:

A direct message from Lee and Katie.
Dear people of the world.
Katie and I sadly haven't had time to comment on this page due to taking time looking after our sons needs. we are lost for words with how supportive everyone has been and we can't thank you all enough. With the help of every one of you, Lenox Hill Hospital and the Ronald Macdonald House we can now take care of our son with less to worry about, until he is ready to go home. To be by his side is all we have wanted and because of you we can both stay here. Until you have a child you will never realsie how much strength and positivity you can find inside yourself to be strong.
The Ronald Macdonald house guys are truly amazing and help so many people every day of the year. We have truly been inspired to help others in need after spending time listening to their stories of fighting for survival.
Upon our safe return to the UK we will be making a personal donation to the foundation and will carry on supporting their cause in the future.

So all the talk on facebook of excess money going to RM was crap basically it was always to cover their bills. £11k wow

AndreaDislikesScammers · 04/01/2015 20:47

Nerf

Why should anyone set up groups/threads to discuss anything?

We could all just sit around at home talking to ourselves/family/friends about it but that wouldn't have the same appeal.

TheFairyCaravan · 04/01/2015 20:49

differentname I posted how someone could look at the dad's Fb page. It was in response to another poster asking for someone to link it. I didn't want to link, so told them an easy, but long winded, way of getting to it. I did not at any point name anybody.

I don't care what you think of me, what you think of people looking at someone's public Fb page or anything else, but you really, really should not go round posting blatant lies!

AndreaDislikesScammers · 04/01/2015 20:50

"Upon our safe return to the UK we will be making a personal donation to the foundation"

Personal donation from the money they apparently don't have hence the fundraising? Weird.