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to be ripping with my mil about this

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mineallmine · 20/10/2014 15:45

Won't bore you all by making this a long story. My dd just had her 4th birthday. PIL sent a card for her birthday (they live in another country) but nothing in the card. Let me be clear, she doesn't need anything. Dd didn't notice or care but our 14 yr old ds noticed. They've always sent money in his card. Dd's cousin's birthday is 2 days before dd's and she got money in her card.

Dd is not short of anything. BUT. The same thing happened last year when it was dd's 3rd birthday and at Christmas, MIL said 'I ordered something on Amazon and it hasn't come yet' so gave dd a little plastic golf set from the pound shop. All other grandchildren ranging in age from 18 down to next youngest at 10 got either presents or card with money. The Amazon present never materialised. No explanation. Again I say, dd doesn't know or care and is short of nothing. Being the youngest of all my friend's children, she inherits loads of clothes and toys so she wants for nothing.

I'm just mad that dd is not being treated the same as the other grandchildren. If this was my own mother, I'd just say 'what's the story here?' but my relationship with MIL is more...cautious. DH says he'll talk to her but hasn't yet. None of them like to confront her but that's a whole other thread for a whole other day...

If it's relevant, and I really REALLY hope it's not, dd is the only one of the grandchildren who was adopted. If that's why, I'll never ever talk to her again.

So am I being ridiculous since dd doesn't know or care. Should I let it go? Or should I pin the bitch up against the wall and ask why my dd is being made different among the grandchildren??? I don't like my MIL particularly so I'm worried that that's clouding my thinking on the subject.

OP posts:
Wealldancelamacarena · 30/11/2014 10:34

Frustrating thread with no ending !

ssd · 30/11/2014 10:53

I think the op's silence speaks volumes Sad

ClaudiaNaughton · 30/11/2014 10:59

Could the money have disappeared en route if sent as cash? Perhaps that would be a good opener.

Aeroflotgirl · 30/11/2014 11:12

I hope that if there are no Christmas presents forthcoming for dd, and ds receives presents, op is straight on that phone without consulting her husband. It does get put of and put off, she had ample opportunity to speak to MIL when she came, but she did not, despite her ds getting birthday money, and dd not. Op husband is not going to talk to MIL at all, and it is evident, so really its like waiting for the second coming. Op has defended her niece against MIL, now its time to defend your dd.

Aeroflotgirl · 30/11/2014 12:30

Just re reading the op, yes there is definitely unfair treatment going on here, not only does ds get money and presents in his card, so does all his cousins, except dd. This talk to mil should have been done last Christmas when ds and his cousins got oresents, and only dd did not! No excuse! Hasent arrived yet my left foot. Right op before Christmas you pick up tgat phone and ask mil what she is doing about Christmas presents, to make sure she ordered early as last year dd did not get one and that was very unfair. We treat both chikdren equally in this family! Grow a backbone, take your finger out your butt and stuck up for dd! Re reading tgat op was was so sad.

Aeroflotgirl · 30/11/2014 12:31

Make sure they same does not repeat this Christmas!

Kewcumber · 30/11/2014 14:46

I think the op's silence speaks volumes

Or she could just be getting on with life.

Aeroflotgirl · 30/11/2014 14:57

Exactly kew, op any update! It's close to Christmas, has you mil been spoken to so a repeat of last Christmas does not happen!

mineallmine · 04/12/2014 19:45

Update at last.

I came home from work today and DH said he'd phoned his DM and said it about the presents. She said that they'd never given the grandchildren presents until they were 'old enough to appreciate them,' until 'about schoolgoing age.' She said they've never seen dd as anything other than equal to the other GC. DH left it at that, said what else could I do, I could hardly call her a liar. I just said you could have said that she either buys for both or neither and I left it at that because honestly, I feel sorry for him. It's shit to have a mother like her.

And then I seethed and seethed and seethed and rang her. Thankfully she wasn't home when I rang first because I was too angry and I probably would have cried in anger.

So I just rang her there a minute ago. DH is gone out to a meeting and I didn't tell him I was going to ring. I said 'I know you were talking to DH this morning and I understand you think dd is too young for presents. But you have to understand that my children are equal so I think it's best if you aren't buying for dd then leave ds off your list too. He won't mind one bit, they all get too much anyway.' ANd then she started spouting about not buying for the GC until they're older, always did it yada yada. And I said, actually no, you have never once not given ds a present for either birthday or xmas. And she said 'We were home when the other GC were younger and so we gave them presents and the kids were all older when we moved and then we sent money. Not true, said I. Ds was 3 when you left and you always sent money in his card. Then I said, well if your intention is to not buy until dd is older, why did you tell me last xmas when you gave all the other GC presents that you'd ordered something on Amazon that hadn't arrived? She said, o yes, that and one other item didn't arrive and i was refunded (but no explanation as to how that ties in with her not-buying-for-under 4s policy) Then she said how hurt she and FIL were that we thought it was because dd is adopted and how they've never seen her as any different to any of the others. And I said that she has to understand how we couldn't see why she would treat dd differently to ds etc etc. The she was talking about the age difference between my children and what about when ds is 21? Not sure what her point was there but I just said 'Then you stop buying for ds and keep going with dd until she's 21. Then it's fair, everyone is treated equally.'

I said how difficult the call was for dh to make, she said she's upset that we've been thinking about it for so long without saying. I said I'd wanted to earlier but it took dh a while to work up to it. I said I don't want bad feeling or an atmosphere, but that she has to understand that when I feel y children are not being treated equally, then it's my job to protect them. She said she thought dh and I are a little sensitive about dd being adopted, and I said 'You're probably right but ds is already sensitive about it and dd will be when she actually understands it so that's just the way it is.'

Somewhere in the conversation, I told her that ds had noticed and had wanted to share his birthday money. I told her thatI'd told him 'No, dd doesn't know or care and money is only paper' to which she said 'But that's my point exactly.' I said 'I think you understand that this isn't at all about money or presents, it's about being seen to treat the children the same and ds sees that dd is being treated differently.' I told her I'd fobbed ds off about it. However, today I asked ds if he'd be ok with not getting a present from PILs and he said 'I was only thinking about it yesterday, wondering what Granny and Grandad would do about (sister) for Christmas. I don't want something if she doesn't get something too.'

So the conversation with MIL was left with me saying 'As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it. I'm reassured to hear you say it wasn't about dd being adopted and I hope you understand why I had to make this call. Say whatever you need to say so that the air is clear between us.' She was a bit sniffy and said 'Well we could talk all night' so I just said 'Look, we'll just leave it there, all the best.' Click.

DH is going to hit the roof but I can hold my head up and say I said nothing that wasn't true, nothing unkind, nothing in anger. He'll have to suck it up but I'm not looking forward to the fallout.

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Aeroflotgirl · 04/12/2014 19:54

Mineallmine bloody well done you Flowers Cake Wine. Good for you, for defending dd, what poor excuse, especially you know that she is not telling the truth and trying to make excuses. So now you are transparent, next time she sends anything for ds, send it right back. Wow go mamma tiger.

Aeroflotgirl · 04/12/2014 19:55

Feeling better now, glad that got a good ending, please keep us updated about Christmas.

Aeroflotgirl · 04/12/2014 19:56

So how long does she want to wait, until she gives dd presents!

Goldmandra · 04/12/2014 19:56
Flowers

That must have been very hard.

I'm sure she thinks she sounded very plausible but she was never going to put her hands up and say "OK. It's a fair cop".

You needed to establish a principle here and I think you did that really calmly, clearly and fairly. I hope she realises she can't behave like this and get away with it again in the future.

Your DS sounds lovely BTW. You and your DH should be very proud of him.

PlumpingUpPartridge · 04/12/2014 20:04

Very well done to you for seeing it through. I bet you're sitting there dreading your DH's return home though - she will so have got in touch with him.

Pity you couldn't record the call Grin

APocketfulOfSpondulix · 04/12/2014 20:15

Good on you. I think you held your own without sounding aggressive or unreasonable (from what you've told us, anyway!).

Your DS sounds like a star!

mineallmine · 04/12/2014 20:23

I'm sick in my stomach about dh coming home. I know he's going to be beyond angry that I went 'behind his back.' I don't think MIL will phone him though, they generally ring her. She might ring her dd though (nice SIL) to bitch about me but that's ok, I can live with that.

Maybe it's just the adreneline (sp??) but I feel good. I was calm and measured. I didn't get ruffled - and nor did she even when caught in a lie!

I do feel a teeny tiny bit bad that it's possible this present thing is from meanness as opposed to feeling differently about dd and if so, it's not a nice thing to be accused of. And I do feel sad that dh will feel the fallout of this conversation, not me.

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JammyGeorge · 04/12/2014 20:28

Well done mineallmine! Give yourself a pat on the back.

You deserve some sort of mumsnet medal for handling that in such a controlled manner.

readyforno2 · 04/12/2014 20:29

Have just read this thread from the beginning.
(God knows what unicorn was on)
Well done op! Wine
Your ds sounds lonely. I hope mine are as nice as that when they're teenagers

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 04/12/2014 20:33

Dont feel bad for just being a protective mother. Your lovely DS noticed and felt protective of his sister too.

You did the right thing and your DH will just have to pull up his big boy pants and get on with it.

Goldmandra · 04/12/2014 20:33

I get the fact that you feel sorry for him. My MIL wasn't particularly pleasant and DH hated standing up to her. Now and then he had to and sometimes I did it because he wouldn't, especially when she was being vile to our 7YO god son.

You were stuck between a rock and a hard place. Whatever she said, it is blatantly obvious that she had no intention of buying gifts for your DD. She knows you know that too. You had to choose between letting her hurt your DD very badly (and make your DS feel bad too) or making your DH upset, angry and possibly fearful of having to face conflict with her. There wasn't a good option.

I think you needed to do this to establish your DD's equality, not just for the purpose of birthday and Christmas gifts but for various other times when your DD could be quietly sidelined. This was going to need saying clearly and firmly at some point. It has been said and now your MIL now knows she will be challenged if she tries it again.

Your DH would have been angry whenever you tackled this issue so better to get it over and done with before your DD got hurt.

RoastitBubblyJocks · 04/12/2014 20:42

Well done AllMine, you handled that prefectly. Flowers

Ohfourfoxache · 04/12/2014 20:50

Well done - beautifully handled!

You had the conversation with her that DH should have had. Tbh he can be as angry as he likes - you know that you have done the right thing, you are protecting your dc, he isn't. Which, in my book, makes his anger unjustifiable

RandomMess · 04/12/2014 20:59

You caught her in a lie whether it's about adoption or meanness is irrelevant she now knows you know and will have to act appropriately which solves the issue of ds and dd being upset,

Well done, hopefully the fact you haven't rowed with MIL means that your dh will just be relieved that it's dealt with.

solvendie · 04/12/2014 21:00

Well done - hopefully it was a taking stock moment for everyone and things can move on positively

MaryWestmacott · 04/12/2014 21:00

I think you handled it well. Your DH might be upset you went behind his back, but at least it's done now. (Try to avoid having a go at him, he's probably going to go on the attack because he knows deep down he should have dealed with it himself and is upset it got to this).

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