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SIL (again)

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iamsoannoyed · 19/10/2014 12:02

More of a vent than an AIBU.

Some of you may remember my previous posts re SIL/BIL and the farm situation (now resolved in one sense).

SIL and BIL (mainly SIL, I think) are still causing headaches. It's very frustrating. For back story, SIL/BIL have 6 children, SIL has a progress illness which causes her to have significant mobility problems and fatigue. We bought them out of BIL share of the farm, as BIL not able to do much of the work on the farm as he was caring for SIL. He refused to consider other options (paying someone to be SIL carer or someone to work on the farm etc). The brothers had taken it over jointly- PIL are still alive and well, just retired. Well, FIL is technically retired- he doesn't seem to understand what that means though! Quite a lot of bad feeling caused by the whole situation, and SIL/BIL feel that DH is the favoured child. Their demands on others became quite unreasonable, so we have put firm boundaries in place as to what and when we will do things. Happy to help out in an emergency though.

Since this the demands are becoming more outrageous. They seem to have interpreted "we'll help in an emergency" as "if we don't bother to sort anything out, then when it needs done imminently we can call it an emergency".

It's driving me bonkers. I have actually refused to do things, which I know has caused them inconvenience- but I feel that they are well and truly taking the p*! i don't mind doing things that don't cause too much inconvenience- such as picking something up/one of their DC from an activity if I am going that way anyway, or on the odd occasion if I have nothing planned. But I draw the line at taking time off work (seriously, SIL has asked me to do this) or cancelling DC activities to facilitate their demands.

Lately a few things have caused major tantrums and they've put PIL in the middle of it all again, which really annoys me-. What DH and I or do not do for BIL/SIl is absolutely nothing do with, nor the responsibility of, my lovely PIL. PIL do quite a lot for them, but I think they have also pulled back a but so they have more time for themselves.

DH and I are taking the children away to the christmas market in Nuremberg just before christmas, we are really excited (it's a surprise for them) and looking forward to spending time as a family. Cover for farm sorted and it'll be the first time we've all got away together for a while. SIL
upset as her children "don't get to go anywhere" and then said "it would have been nice if you'd consulted us first- then we could have arranged for out DC to go with you". I was gob-smacked! Got quite cross and said something along the lines of "we don't consult anyone before planning a family holiday, and I wouldn't be taking all your DC as it would not be a relaxing time". She got offended as apparently I had said her children were unpleasant to be around. I didn't, but taking 8 children (our 2, plus their 6) is not my idea of a fun holiday. I didn't have a large family for a reason!

Next thing is that she has decided 2 of her DDs should have ponies. My DDs both have ponies and I have my own horse. SIL clearly can't help with the care of a pony, and BIL doesn't like them (and has said he doesn't want to do all the "dirty work" of a pony).

I said that I was happy for them to use our field and there are spare stables- for cost of hay etc, but I wasn't going to be looking after their ponies or taking responsibility for shoeing/worming/innoculations/vets visits etc, nor would I be arranging lessons/supervising riding on a daily basis. I felt ground rules needed to be set, or I'd be expected to be the responsible person for their ponies.

I take DD's to pony club and said I wouldn't be responsible for taking their DD's on a regular basis either (and couldn't as no room in the horse box). SIL helpfully suggested I could buy a horse lorry which could carry 4 ponies! I declined to spend our money on that.

SIL/BIL said they think they'd need me to "help a bit more, as they have no experience and won't always be able to do "all they'd like too due to SIL's ill-health". I suggested they considered finding somewhere that did full livery, in that case- they said they can't afford it. SIL then said that I am "preventing her children from having ponies and that's not fair as your DDs get to have all the fun".

MIL has asked me to reconsider, as the girls are very disappointed (I'm irritated SIL told them of the plan before actually asking me). I admit, it wouldn't be too much more effort to bring in/put out ponies. I could supervise the mucking out and some of the riding, without it being too onerous. Still couldn't do the pony club stuff though. I just get the feeling that I would then be left with the entire responsibility for everything, and SIL would not make her DD's do anything if they decided not to (I'm not suggesting her DDs would, merely that I would end up, by default, caring for these ponies if they didn't). And I'm not up for that. At the same time, MIL doesn't ask for much and I don't want to leave 2 little girls very disappointed. I've said I'll think about it. DH says we could "give it a try".

AIBU to say no, when I could do it without too much effort?

OP posts:
MidniteScribbler · 21/10/2014 10:14

This is not like buying a funny. You can't just let the batteries run out and then put the damned thing in the back of the cupboard. It's a living breathing (extremely large!) animal. If they are not prepared to make the commitment to care for them, then there's no discussion needed. They don't get them, all other issues are irrelevant.

MidniteScribbler · 21/10/2014 10:15

Stooped autocorrect. Not like buying a furby.

Damnautocorrect · 21/10/2014 10:26

Neighhhhhhhhhh is a complete sentence

ImperialBlether · 21/10/2014 10:26

I am very confused with this thread, after reading this thread.

trulybadlydeeply · 21/10/2014 10:49

Huh Confused? Is the FIL a vicar or a retired farmer?

charleybarley · 21/10/2014 10:56

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pictish · 21/10/2014 10:56

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Littlegreyauditor · 21/10/2014 11:00

That's weird Confused

aermingers · 21/10/2014 11:01

There are types of vicars that have other interests such as farming as well as vicaring (or whatever it's called). I know at my Grandparents church they had a Rector and another vicar who had a full time job too.

BirdintheWings · 21/10/2014 11:02

Maybe the OP has changed some of the more recognisable details about the family relationships, Imperial. I would.

eddielizzard · 21/10/2014 11:04

wow.

you're doing the right thing by saying no. no. no. NOOOO.

ImperialBlether · 21/10/2014 11:09

I don't know about this. The OP's child which was to be christened on the other thread was the MIL's first grandchild. What happened to the six cousins? What about the OP's other child? What is a baby riding a horse? Grin

ImperialBlether · 21/10/2014 11:10

WHY is a baby riding a horse, that should have been.

enWoooquethesythebearingwizard · 21/10/2014 11:13

Crikey. Very complicated.

BirdintheWings · 21/10/2014 11:18

Betcha the FIL-is-a-vicar thread was posted on behalf of someone else (a sister with an equally bonkers set of inlaws?).

Or OP has been married twice and holds grudges for a very long time...

ImperialBlether · 21/10/2014 11:24

That's what I thought, about the posting on behalf of someone else.

catsmother · 21/10/2014 11:35

Curiouser and curiouser ...... yet I've read this thread and the ones OP has written before about the ILs and farm situation - and have really felt for her, and been infuriated on her behalf - and have never felt she was being anything but truthful.

That linked thread .... says PILs live a distance away whereas I'm sure OP and PILs and SIL all live within close proximity (which no doubt encourages SIL & BIL to take advantage) .... so am guessing too that linked thread was perhaps posted for someone else because it really doesn't seem to be about the same family for all sorts of reasons.

Groovee · 21/10/2014 11:41

I don't think it is unreasonable for cousins to not always have the same lifestyles etc. I do think your BIL and SIL have got so used to having their own way that they do it without thinking.

FishWithABicycle · 21/10/2014 11:49

That is indeed weird Imperial and I hope the OP doesn't turn out to be one of those making-up-a-drama-for-fun types but it's entirely possible there's a reasonable explanation.

OP's DH might have a mum who married twice and therefore effectively has two sets of in-laws. Both my siblings have two sets of parents-in-law due to divorce & remarriage so it's not that unusual.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/10/2014 11:49

I have not read any of the OP's other threads, just this one - but one thing occurs to me.

If iamsoannoyed were to agree to facilitate her dnieces having ponies, it sounds as if there would then be a big risk of her BIL and SIL bringing up the fact that, whilst the girls are having the fun of having ponies, the other children 'need' to be given something similar, otherwise it is not fair on them - and it sounds as if the OP might well be expected to facilitate that too!

ImperialBlether · 21/10/2014 12:10

Doesn't sound like it though, Fish.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/10/2014 12:18

It sounds as if there would then be a big risk of her BIL and SIL bringing up the fact that, whilst the girls are having the fun of having ponies, the other children 'need' to be given something similar, otherwise it is not fair on them

The same thought occurred to me ... Hmm

enWoooquethesythebearingwizard · 21/10/2014 12:49

Whatever the actual situation of the OP or her family and friends I've known of families with very similar dynamics.

It's especially difficult when siblings have been involved as the next generation of a family business. One side often seems to resent the other for all kinds of reasons and the workload rarely seems to be shared fairly even if the profits are Sad

Taking illness completely out of the equation, people like the SIL and BIL constantly move the goalposts to suit their own ends. Kind people can do them endless favours without thanks and then the one time something doesn't go their way all previous generosity, whether of time or finance, is completely disregarded and guess who ends up villain of the piece?

In the case of animals, someone like the OP will always be disadvantaged because they'll never see an animal suffer neglect or lack of care. It wouldn't be a case of offering free accommodation, it would be a case of taking over full responsibilities and I think that's fairly clear to all.

If someone like SIL had berated me for not consulting her about my family break away, then I'd have been extremely tempted to respond 'seeing as you didn't consult me before having your children, then it never even occurred that anyone would think I should' Hmm

I agree with the PP who called the illness a red herring. This situation would strike me as being far more about personalities than circumstances.

JuxtheDaemonVampire · 21/10/2014 16:05

These two are right royal piss takers. Nothing is ever going to be enough to make up for the shit hand they see themselves as having been dealt. You have to stay firm, op, or they'll just take a mile every time you offer an inch.

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