to not know what to do about Santa

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DH suggested I ask you lovely ladies for advice . And yes, I know it's not even Halloween yet...

I have a DD, who is two. We are coming up to her first Christmas where she might have a vague idea of what is going on and could understand a little about the various customs. I'm not religious, so Christmas for me is just a mid-winter feast/party/bit of time off work that I can spend with my DH/DD. The problem I have is what to do about St Nick. I can't decide if I should tell her he is real (and have to disabuse her later/risk having her spot that mummy lied) or perhaps take a different approach (in which case what approach?).

In part, I wonder if Terry Pratchett has it right and you have to tell children the small lies (tooth fairy, Santa) in order that they can later wrap their minds around the big 'lies' we use in society in order to be society (truth, justice,...). On the other hand, it just feels really wrong to me.

You know it's starting to sound like Christmas should be made illegal. It clearly causes so much pain for everyone that celebrating it is abusive.

What happened to getting together with family & friends you hadn't seen in a while and buying kids some little presents to make them smile?

Btw February 31st is a bad day for me so I'll be complaining if I see anyone being happy on that day or in the week leading up to it.

February 31 ?

Yes, I figured I wouldn't be taking a day already claimed by someone else :)

Oh for goodness' sake. I could see both sides of this but you're massively overreacting to this now.

It's a courtesy and meant to reflect the supportive nature of the site. They're not banning Christmas, just trying to keep things to topic, which afaik they do generally across the boards anyway.

What does it matter which board it's on before December? They haven't even moved this one.

You're being very obtuse BigBlue.

I imagine it's entirely intentional.

If people don't want to understand, nothing will make them.

Why they have not deleted this thread as being offensive I have no idea

I think they fact they have not deleted it nor have they actually moved it speaks volumes.

They did not say talk of xmas was banned but traditionally kept to dec 1.

However this is NOT the first thread on xmas I have seen. There are more every day as the inevitable run up begins, and family problems start.

People post on xmas for all sorts of reasons, for the fun aspect - which seems to be more on the actual xmas boards, this early, but also the others sides, like ops post, and the others I have seen, in law issues, tricky relatives ruining it and all the rest.

I think this perfectly reflects what MN is about, to support each other...and it is whether anyone likes it or not, start now in Oct as peoples minds turn to xmas and all the good and bad that brings.

Big Blue, MN didn't move the thread and said there is no hard and fast rule. I would therefore look to actions and not words on this occasion. .