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To fear the outcome of Indyref?

365 replies

thehajduk · 16/09/2014 19:47

My husband is half Scottish and half English and I am seriously worried that he will be heartbroken on Thursday if Scotland votes Yes! He is worried that our little boy's British identity will be undermined. Thus he took this picture and is hoping that all of us who care will take a similar photo with a similar message to show Scotland that we care.
Not all of us get to vote, and it’s Scotland’s decision - and Scotland’s alone - to make. But all 60 million of us care what that decision is, and we have a few days now to show everyone in Scotland how much.

We shared this message on Facebook and Twitter and many have followed - here is our hope that those of us on Mumsnet who care about the British identity of our children will follow.

Please take your photo and choose your hashtag #LetsStayTogether #PleaseDontGo #NoThanks

To fear the outcome of Indyref?
OP posts:
McGlashan · 16/09/2014 20:38

Actually I think that's very nice of your DH OP. Won't change my mind but it's better than being berated on t'internet by angry English people telling us we can just eff off if we want to.
Your DH can have dual nationality if there's an independent Scotland and then you can come and live here when rUK leave the EU and it all goes tits up.

HaroldLloyd · 16/09/2014 20:39

Goodness me OP is getting a pasting.

I don't think that a toddler is going to sway much and I can't even see the photo but if that's how she feels, who is anyone else to say she shouldn't?

thehajduk · 16/09/2014 20:39

I don't think sentimentality is nonsense and I feel that those of us living outside Scotland should be free to express what we feel. Of course ultimately it is the decision of those who live in Scotland that counts, which is as should be, however that does not mean that those of us who have an interest, and those of us who are feeling torn should not be fearing the outcome of the Yes vote on our identities.

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HaroldLloyd · 16/09/2014 20:39

That's it McG at least it's NICE!

Numanoid · 16/09/2014 20:40

Yay, I found you all ... I was still on that 12 thread!

Come on TS, keep up. Wink Just kidding, although I don't think you'll find any (or many) Yes supporters there anymore.

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 16/09/2014 20:40

I agree, whilst your tot is a cutie and your dh none to shabby either (and rather nifty with the crayola) this is misjudged.

I appreciate the sentiment I guess, we're not leaving, we just want self determination. We can still be mates!

I'm just angry at, this late stage, the amount of twee sentiment that's coming out, undermining the long and emotional process a lot of us have been through to reach our conclusion.

All this talk of breaking up the family, yuk.

To stick with that analogy though it has followed a recognisable format. One sides wants out, the other glances up from their paper and mutters some kind if agreement then forgets whilst the other makes plans and starts packing. Then the other one realises their partner wasn't kidding and comes out with threats 'you're nothing without me' 'you'll never manage Adobe's and so on and so forth. Just as they're at the door the emotional blackmail comes, 'I love you' 'I'll pay more attention to you' 'don't go'.

So what do you do? Hang around and hope it gets better? Or do the scary thing and make a break for it?

thehajduk · 16/09/2014 20:41

That you McGlashan and if the UK leaves the EU I am coming! :)

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JudysPriest · 16/09/2014 20:41

The 12 thread Team? I thought it was BT anonymous?

HaroldLloyd · 16/09/2014 20:41

It's a big thing, some people get sentimental.

Even call me Dave is getting rather sniffy.

awaynboilyurheid · 16/09/2014 20:42

I am terrified of a Yes vote so completely agree

SomeSunnySunday · 16/09/2014 20:42

I will be devastated by a No vote.

Blimmin' expat Scots. Honestly, I have had enough of their sentimentalising this major political decision for us (and I count some of my very nearest and dearest among those who I am criticising). We're not voting on ethnicity, on heritage, on history. These things won't change. We're voting on the running of our schools, our hospitals, our public services in general, on self-determination, on opportunity. This is an issue for the people (of whatever ethnicity) living in Scotland today.

HaroldLloyd · 16/09/2014 20:44

Which is why no one else is voting, yet is free to have an opinion.

thehajduk · 16/09/2014 20:44

LovelyRitaMeterMaid -I agree, the BT Campaign failed miserably, the current administration failed miserably and whilst my sentimentality is expressed here, my anger and in particular the anger of my husband is expressed at their door.

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LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 16/09/2014 20:44

Arf at bt anonymous.

I lost the will to live in there!

Iggi999 · 16/09/2014 20:45

Is this actually a thread on mumsnet where more posters are voting Yes?

TeamScotland · 16/09/2014 20:45

I know Judy, I was wondering why no one was left to challenge the pish misleading and often misinformed posts on there.

TeamScotland · 16/09/2014 20:46
TeamScotland · 16/09/2014 20:46

So? What's everyone got planned for the rest of the week?

HaroldLloyd · 16/09/2014 20:47

Crying and watching Balamory.

Numanoid · 16/09/2014 20:47

Ach it would be an okay debate for a while Team, then back to generalisations. I think most people left for that reason.

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 16/09/2014 20:48

Out on a stall tomorrow, taking a couple of shifts on Thursday at the polling station, giving some old folk on the street a lift to vote then hiding!

blackcats73 · 16/09/2014 20:49

Fab picture and lovely sentiment OP, your boy is cute and Husband a tad handsome! You're dead lucky.

I hope for a no vote too as I think the yes voters are deluded. It's madness. Just my opinion. I've got no say.

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 16/09/2014 20:50

The flashes if actual debate were good then it would go into some weird mailing race to the bottom and it was all about the big bad yes people ruining their life.

Weird.

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 16/09/2014 20:50

College, I think we're having a Yes/No debate in Comms class on Thursday. Confused We've so far had a 20 second discussion before the lecturer basically had to break the arguments up!

Bettercallsaul1 · 16/09/2014 20:50

Call me cynical, Harold, but I think what Call-me-Dave is getting "sniffy" about are the possible consequences for himself in the event of a Yes vote...!