To not let a delivery guy use my toilet?

[msfreud]

Just that, really. Seems to happen all the time that delivery guys - everything from Ocado to Warren & Evans, ask to use my toilet once inside my property!

So today the guy from Warren & Evans (delivering a bed) asked, and I said no on the grounds that I would have needed to let him into a part of the house that I was keeping "closed off" as the cat (who needs to be kept in and out of the way of deliveries etc. as we've just moved) was there and I didn't want her to get out of there. And to be honest I've now had several experiences of a delivery guy asking to use my loo and leave it stinking of piss so I really prefer not to. Only have one loo in the house and want to keep it nice and clean. It's a not a public toilet after all and he was not a friend or family, just a random stranger really.

But more escape routes, BeCool?

Don't know, I wasn't there. Maybe the person gave the OP a bad vibe that made her uncomfortable and she wanted him to leave ASAP. That can happen, something just feels off and it's a relief when whoever it is drops off the stuff and leaves.

Doesn't make her a horrible person who is precious or mean and afraid of piss, etc.

Why are you such mean person?

Yep, one person out if a hundred, therefore, anyone else who disagrees is just a mean-spirited cow because posters on MN embrace any and all into their domain.

Why are you such a judgemental one?

My 86 year old FIL allowed two strangers (young girls, fwiw) use his bathroom. They cleaned him out of all my late MIL's jewellery, and less importantly, quite a bit of cash.
Two teenage girls v one innocent, slightly confused old man.
So no, not everybody asking to use the toilet has no ulterior motive

The OP had bad experiences in the past, she wanted to keep her cat corralled. Anywhere else on MN, her feelings would not be minimised, but when it comes to her shitter, she should just suck it up.

I've been burgled several times.

I also had one horrendous experience after letting a delivery driver use our loo.

I still am aware enough of the ways of the world to treat people as individuals and not as a class.

The action of one arsehole against my toilet (no pun intended) is not the responsibility of all delivery people, and I'm emotionally intelligent enough to know this.

to reiterate, again and again, the OP isn't about random unknown people ringing her bell asking to use the toilet. The delivery man was already IN HER HOME.

So there are no parallels with what happened to your FIL Flogging - which must have been horrendous for him.

Here is your medal, Cool! Wow, if only we could all be as perfect and 'emotionally intelligent' as you. I have PTSD from this and other life experiences. Despite medication and counselling, I get anxiety and panic attacks and am quite on edge allowing strangers in my home or upstairs to use my loo. But alas, I'm just a mean, horrible awful person who has no emotional intelligence and anyone who isn't as free with their personal space, for whatever reason, is, too.

Wow, that's a really intelligent conclusion.

^ Wow, that's a really intelligent conclusion.
You said it

BeCool The actions of an arsehole may not be the responsibility of all delivery drivers but it is also not my responsibility if they end up with a gold watch in the gusset of their undies because they don't go before starting work.

Don't know, I wasn't there. Maybe the person gave the OP a bad vibe that made her uncomfortable and she wanted him to leave ASAP. That can happen, something just feels off and it's a relief when whoever it is drops off the stuff and leaves.

That, Rainbow, is what is known as shifting the goalposts. It's just not an available argument. If that is what OP felt, she would no doubt have mentioned it. In fact, it's highly unlikely that she would even bother to have raised the question, given that obviously it's not unreasonable in those circumstances.

My 86 year old FIL allowed two strangers (young girls, fwiw) use his bathroom. They cleaned him out of all my late MIL's jewellery, and less importantly, quite a bit of cash. Two teenage girls v one innocent, slightly confused old man.

Yes, that's awful. But it's hardly comparable with allowing the use of your toilet to a man making an arranged delivery from a shop you've ordered something from, who might just be deterred from cleaning out your valuables by the fact that the police would find it absolute child's play to track him down.

I handed realised this was a debate forum and we are all here to argue, Ver.

She didn't want to let a stranger in her crapper, meh.

So much peal-clutching of what a horrible, mean person she is. I find it rather rude to ask to use a customer's loo myself.

Horses for courses.

YANBU. I would feel very uncomfortable about this. But I live in London and we're known for being very unfriendly.

** Londoners that is, not just my family :)

neiljames wow I am in awe of you amazing bladder that can last all your working day without needing the loo.

You do know that keeping well hydrated is one of the fundamental basics of good health and work performance, especially driving?

Why aren't people just kind to each other?

"Can I use your loo?"

"Yes"

Simple. And you can tell it's the right answer, because any other answer needs a page of justification.

BeCool I know.

I'm a Londoner. I'm not unfriendly!

Have you just moved in?

I was born here!