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Next door neighbour's kid - WWYD?

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Beavie · 05/09/2014 19:52

Aaaargh! I'm in a tricky situation here. I moved into a HA house a few months ago, and I've never lived on an estate before so I'm really not sure how to deal with this.

I have 2 dds age 4 and 10. NDN's daughter is 8, we'll call her H. A while after we moved in, in late spring, H started coming around to play with dd2. Dd1 finds H extremely annoying and if H is here then dd1 just shuts herself in her room (to be fair, she does this quite a lot even if H isn't here...she loves reading and is happiest holed up with a book).

Our back gardens are tiny and for some reason both of my neighbours have gates going into my garden from theirs. So H has direct access into my garden, and my back door is usually open so she just turns up in our house.

For the first month or two, it wasn't an issue that H was here as she did a good job of entertaining dd2, who is really full on, and she very polite and well behaved. H's parents very rarely take her anywhere or do anything with her, and she tells me that before we lived here she would just always be in her room by herself. By contrast, I get out and about with the kids as much as possible, we do stuff like geocaching, swimming, lots of walks and dd2 is lucky enough to have a pony at my DM's place not far away so we spend a fair bit of time there. So I do feel sorry for H, and have taken her out with us quite a lot since we've known her.

The amount of time H spends here soon got out of hand though. Literally as soon as we got home, she would be here, or as soon as we woke up in the morning and I opened the back door for the dog, she'd appear. As she got to know us better, I began to see the more annoying parts of her personality. E.g. she lies, a LOT, stupid little things but it happens all the time. And instead of hanging out with dd2, she started trailing around after me all the time. Literally everywhere. I can't get a moment's peace from her. And she talks, and talks and talks, inane stuff, so a 5 minute sit down where I would plan to sit and check my emails etc, i now have H sitting right next to me wittering on. Even while I eat my dinner, she's there chattering away.

I am a LP, and my youngest dd doesn't see her dad so I have her all the time. I find it hard to get the emotional energy for my own dc, and now it really does feel like I have 3, not 2. I think H has also started to consider herself as part of the furniture here too, and gets jealous if I go somewhere without her, e.g. if we go to see the pony. I do sometimes put my foot down and just firmly tell her we are not taking her, but I find it difficult as she looks so disappointed, and then dd2 kicks off because she wants H to come too. And I can't really give her a good reason as to why She can't come, apart from the fact that she does my nut in and I just don't want her to!

I feel really sorry for H that her own parents do fuck all with her, and it's sad that a lot of her lies seem to be about stuff that she is going to do, e.g. She'll turn up in the morning and say that she is going swimming or bowling later, when I know that it's not true. It's like she has a fantasy existence. But at the same time, it drives me mad that I've become responsible for entertaining her. How do I handle this?

OP posts:
sunbathe · 06/09/2014 12:48

That would be gates. Don't know how I managed to type guests perfectly, instead of gates. Hmm

clam · 06/09/2014 12:48

Dd once wandered into our bedroom and her little friend followed her in. I shooed them both out and then told dd very clearly afterwards that our room was out of bounds when friends were round. If she absolutely needed to come in, then she must close the door directly behind her.

ScarlettlovesRhett · 06/09/2014 12:55

Rather than little sad faces about how she regularly gets into your bed, and how she invades everybody's space and privacy, why don't you say 'no'.

It's very simple - "no, you can't come in and play because I'm having a lie-in"; "no, you can't come today, sorry"; it's really not that difficult.

clam · 06/09/2014 13:04

OP! Listen. You are letting an 8 year old (who's not even your own) control your life. Is that what you intended? No? Then assert yourself and get tough.

Have Wine if it helps.

NoWayYesWay · 06/09/2014 13:37

I don't think you should let her into your bed Confused

Do you think you are giving her mixed messages by 'sort of' treating her like one of the family but 'sort of' not treating her like one. If you set up clearer boundaries I think it might be easier for her and you.

scouseontheinside · 06/09/2014 13:49

You'll need to have a stern word with DD2 about her behaviour over H. It will be difficult at first to stop tantrums over H coming/going, especially if she is used to something else.

I agree with what's being said above - you need to have some "visiting hours" (if you're willing to have her for that long even, you don't need to feel obliged). Let the DDs know the score friend can come over during this time only. Is it possible that DD1 could have a friend/activity scheduled during this time? The just be firm, firm, FIRM. Firm and fair.

You'll fight it for a little while, but once boundaries have been established it will be fine. I'd say it would be good to do this now, rather than when you're neck deep in a course!

Beavie · 06/09/2014 13:56

Just to clarify on the bed thing...the situation usually goes like this. She will come in, and her and dd2 will come upstairs and sit on my bed (if I am having a lie in...I am not always lounging around in bed btw!). They will both sit and chat to me for a bit, then dd2, who has the attention span of a knat, will wander off into her room or something and then I am left with H, sitting next to me, yapping away. Which is my cue to ask her to leave the room as I want to get up and get dressed.

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rollonthesummer · 06/09/2014 14:03

How does she get inside your house and up to your bedroom whilst you're asleep??

rollonthesummer · 06/09/2014 14:09

You're leaving yourself wide open for abuse accusations here. Get some locks. And some perspective!

Stealthpolarbear · 06/09/2014 14:11

Op I'm not suggesting you're doing anything wrong as such. But other than dh and Dcs I'd not want anyone else in my bed. If I was babysitting a small child and needed to comfort them, maybe. But it's just so intimate.
But I appreciate I may just be Envy of you getting a lie in with a 4yo in the house!

googoodolly · 06/09/2014 14:13

You're treating her like your daughter (letting her help with housework, letting her in your bed) but then you're telling her to go away. She must be very confused and I can't blame her.

You need to set up some boundaries and stick to them. She cannot come over/inside unless you invite her (not your DD, YOU). She can't come into your bedroom/bed. She has to go home when told and you can't treat her like your child and let her help with things if you want her to just be a guest.

I feel really sorry for your older daughter.

rollonthesummer · 06/09/2014 14:15

I feel really sorry for your older daughter.

I agree with this.

scouseontheinside · 06/09/2014 14:25

Beavie can you just tell her that she is not allowed in your room? Most of my DC are older now and wouldn't bring friends in anyway, but we have always said that the parents room is private. I think most houses say this, so it won't be a totally foreign thing to H I imagine!

Beavie · 06/09/2014 14:47

Re the lie in with a 4 year old...during the summer holidays they both sleep until at least 9.30am, then I will get up, give dd2 some milk, let the dog out and then retreat to bed to play candy crush and check mn look at emails. That is the point at which I am often invaded. The problem being is that dd2 often comes to hang out with me in the mornings when I wake up, so I'd have to tell her to bugger off as well.

OP posts:
rollonthesummer · 06/09/2014 14:49

But how is this child getting in the door? Isn't it locked?

Fletchermoss · 06/09/2014 15:19

This girl is getting in through your unlocked door? What if a criminal came in? You sound very exposed.

dustarr73 · 06/09/2014 15:30

Put a lock across the top of your door so your dd cant open it.I think at this stage i wouldnt bother with the 8 year old,you have told her a few times when to knock.I would just go straight to the parents at this stage.And tell them to not let her come around anymore.Just put a complete stop to it.

ladygracie · 06/09/2014 15:37

Of course you won't have to tell dd2 to go. She lives in the house. Could you tell dd2 that no one is allowed in the house until you are up? So does dd2 let her in? If she does then you need to say that she is not allowed to answer the door unless you are up.

Oblomov · 06/09/2014 15:41

OP I agree with others, you need to take a step back and see that this is not normal or ok. You need to get perspective.
This is SO not ok.

clam · 06/09/2014 15:43

And if you're leaving the back door open for the dog to wander back in when he's ready (as I do - secure garden), then either stop that for a while, or tell the child in no uncertain terms that she is not to wander in unannounced. Nor if only your dd2 invites her - it has to be OK'd with you.

This would drive me up the WALL. Or rather, no it wouldn't, actually, because I would never have allowed things to get to this stage.

rollonthesummer · 06/09/2014 15:46

4 year olds should not be opening the door to anyone.

storytopper · 06/09/2014 16:09

Agree with others - this has gone way too far. And her parents are taking liberties - do they never think about where she is and what she is doing?

I would take all the measures suggested above to have more formal arrangements for her visiting and I would also speak to the parents to let them know you will be cracking down - if I recall, they did say at the beginning to send her back if she was staying too long.

AllThatGlistens · 06/09/2014 16:15

I can't believe your poor DD1 is being completely sidelined by your neighbours child!!! And letting her get in bed with you? Wow.. I honestly think you need to rethink your priorities here.

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Unexpected · 06/09/2014 16:28

Who is in charge here? You or an 8 year old? An 8 year old who isn't even a member of your own family? I had sympathy with the problems over keeping her out of the garden, getting into the house without her seeing you etc. but this is ridiculous now. Your 4 year old should not be opening the door to anyone, even if she can see that it is her friend. If she can open it, it suggests it's not very secure so sort that out and tell H that she is not to ring on your doorbell or come to the door in the mornings before whatever time yu decide. If she turns up, ignore the doorbell.

pictish · 06/09/2014 16:33

Say to the parent(s)...all amiable like...
"Just to let you know...I'm embarking on a course at university, so my free time is about to become very limited. Please don't think anything awry when I stop H from coming in as much as she's used to. I just won't be as free to entertain her as I have been. I hope she's not going to be too upset by that."

That says it all, but kindly. Lets her mum know that you are no longer ok with her dd camping out at your place all the time.

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