To think an 11 year sentence for Rosdeep Adekoya is perfectly appropriate

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despite what the tabloids will say?

yabu imo
i think 11 years is way too short
is that all we put on a childs life.
she should have got life at least

I don't think anyone is disputing the dreafulness of the crime expat.

I don't think any length of time will be enough.

I highly doubt this women when realised will be allowed to leave the hospital with a newborn baby, she will never be able to gain residency or visiting rights over any child that is hers.

im not seeing how she got culpable homicide not murder? she knew it was wrong and tried to cover it up that suggests murder to me but i'm not an officer of the law nor an expert just someone who struggles to understand british justice

aprilanne because she is a human being in a terrible place. And I don't jsut mean Cornton Vale.

Hold on.... She was not considered mentally I'll was she? She has been in prison on remand

Not ill...

No compassion for a cold uncaring human being...

Would you call for compassion if this was a man?

If it was the case of a mother snapping and within a few minutes she realised and got medical help I would be saying 11 years is way to long.

However she didn't just snap, 3 days is just way to long. Within that time she had to have a drink, eat or sleep.

She was not found to be mentally ill, no.

Theresa Riggi did not fare well in Cornton Vale and nor will Rosdeep, in all likelihood.

I don't think the sentence was long enough and if she is attacked or worse in prison I cannot say I would be sorry or saddened.

thereturnofshoesy

she should have got life at least

I just do not see what you mean by "at least". We did away with the death penalty for murder forty-odd years ago, and this woman was not even convicted of murder.

Although I am not in favour of the death penalty as I think no justice system is perfect and you would hang innocent people, most people in the UK would have her go to the gallows.

If you judge the 12 years that Leslie Grantham served for murdering a taxi driver as about right. then it is not long enough.

She was classed as having a mild to moderate personality disorder but fit to stand trial.

But in today's summing up the Judge said she was suffering depression in the months leading up to his death.

Ross House, the wing in Cornton Vale where she has been on remand is usually for vulnerable prisoners or who have mental health issues.

HeySoulSister Yes I would.

i think 11 years is way too short is that all we put on a childs life

She pled guilty to culpable homicide, which was always going to attract a shorter sentence than a not guilty plea to murder then found guilty at full trial.

The justice system doen't work like shopping does it? Child's life = xx years.

How could anyone ever put a price on something so priceless anyway?

Nothing could ever put right what she did.

Or revenge it adequately, if we built a system on revenge instead.

And if she was hanged tomorrow (by the state), the surviving children WOULD suffer because of it. That's the only punishment that would satisfy the people who advocate revenge. But then how would the children ever get their questions answered when they are adults?

The judge's summing up from Edinburgh Evening News

Passing sentence, Lord Glennie told Adekoya that he would have sent her to prison for 15 years if she hadn’t pleaded guilty and had gone to trial.

He added: “Both the Social Work Report and the psychological report make it clear that you have suffered from depression for some time, and particularly in the last few months before Mikaeel’s death. This has been characterised by a low mood, stress and lack of motivation. You have found yourself overwhelmed by your circumstances, without any adequate coping strategies.

“This is by no means unusual for someone in your position as, in effect, a single mother with the responsibility of looking after the children - or at least the two youngest.

“But in addition, for reasons set out in the psychological report which I do not propose to recite in any detail here, it is clear that the normal bond between mother and child simply failed to develop between you and Mikaeel, though it clearly developed with the other children.

“The reasons are complex, and relate in part to the time when the children were being well cared for by foster carers and the help you needed from your sister when taking them back into your care. This helps explain the internet searches which you conducted between September 2013 and January 2014.

“You clearly recognised the lack of a close maternal bond with Mikaeel, to the extent of searching on the internet for some understanding of why you did not love him in the same way as you loved your other children and of why you always felt angry with him. You clearly needed help, but did not know how to ask for it.

“As Mr McConnachie accepts, none of that excuses your action. I accept that you have no record of any significance; that there is no history of lasting or recurrent neglect; that this assault on Mikaeel appears to have been wholly out of character; that you had no intention to kill or any thought that your actions might have that effect; that your mental state played a significant part in what happened; and that your remorse is entirely genuine.

“But none of that takes away from the fact that you are responsible by your actions for the death of your young son. Prison will not bring Mikaeel back; but society must express its condemnation of your actions in the form of a lengthy prison sentence.”

She had wanted to give him and his sister for adoption at birth, sleepy, her family talked her out of it.

SS also returned the children to her and, like Riggi, she moved to avoid them and they dropped the ball.

Andrewofgg the at least, meant with a term set, as life never means your whole life(except in some cases)

Who says she will give her children answers when they are adults? Pure conjecture. She may not be alive, they may not be alive, they may want nothing to do with her, she may want nothing to do with the, etc etc.

Who can judge how long is enough though? Having said that, this sentence is too short. I would have sentenced her for 22 years minimum.

Ive no doubt she was mentally ill, but being both mentally ill and evil are not mutually exclusive.

expat, she was indeed found to be suffering from a variety of mental health issues, as Groovee has now posted.

The judge also stated that there was no history of abuse, just of her not having adequate support/coping mechanisms. That does not excuse her actions but does cast them in a different light. She is not a long term, actively evil woman.

The judge made that plain in his summing up.

Who says she will give her children answers when they are adults? Pure conjecture. She may not be alive, they may not be alive, they may want nothing to do with her, she may want nothing to do with the, etc etc.

It's reasonable to assume they will have questions.

She'd be the best person to confront with them when the time was right.

That's interesting Grovee (and it confirms that there are details that haven't been made public)

thereturnofshoesy Sorry, understand you now. My mistake.

Even if it were necessary to pass a whole-life sentence - which I think is impossible on a culpable homicide verdict - we should still find more compassion in our souls than the residents of Cornton Vale will show in thier actions.

i have plenty of compassion.
for the little lad who died and her other children.

I wonder how the family will bring them up? What details they will be told? Will the family be honest enough to also explain their role - I can't imagine being any member of her family. The guilt you'd feel for having tried to keep her and her kids together.

Will they grow up being told their mother is an evil woman, or a sad one who was not able to access help and did something horrendous?