To think an 11 year sentence for Rosdeep Adekoya is perfectly appropriate

[ArsenicyOldFace]

despite what the tabloids will say?

arsemicy .i dont get your last post .of course these children will need extensive therapy .but how is that anything to do with there uncaring cow of a mother .no she should be given no quarter .she showed no mercy so why should any be given

Are we supppsed to feel bad she will never live with her kids or enjoy life?

No Pure. She did this. Just pointing out her sentence won't end on release.

Mercy - because we don't live in medieval times, nor Old Testament times. 'Mercy' isn't a finite resource to be carefully doled out.
The best approach imo is 'what is in the best interest of the remaining children' and 'what risk does she present to society, and how can that best be managed in the future?'

.i dont get your last post .of course these children will need extensive therapy .but how is that anything to do with there uncaring cow of a mother

As long as she's in prison, it's news, it will hit the papers from time to time (like with Myra Hindley) and they will be the 'kids whose child-killing mum is in prison', they will be taken to visit a few times a year maybe etc etc

I just think, on release, she'll be relocated and supervised by the probation service and it will all quieten down. Maybe I'm too hopeful.

Can anyone confirm if she'll be under supervision for life under Scots system?

I also think that 11 years in prison, of which generally half is served in prison,

Half served!?

Relocated as the children of the West's were. Though I do admire May's stance on that!

Arsenicy this is another of those 'things' I am torn by.

The court could order it but I don't know if that happened.

On the face of it, it doesn't seem long enough. If this was a father beating his child to death over a prolonged period (it took up to 72 hours for Mikhaeel to die, of horrendous injuries), there would be an outcry over only getting 11 years.

I don't agree with capital punishment but I do feel that the length of sentences ought to be proportionate to the crime. However, I am not the judge who listened to all the evidence, so it's not up to me to say if it is really long enough. I do think the reasons for such a short sentence ought to be given though.

I asked for some compassion for this woman on an earlier thread and I say the same now.

yes she should be supervised for a long time if not life under scots justice .but we are talking about a bail hostel apon release .once a week to start with after hostel .then once a month .hardly constant supervision .

Relocated as the children of the West's were. Though I do admire May's stance on that!

The children relocated? Have they been already? (The Adekoyas, I mean)

I hope they haven't been unsettled too much.

What did May West say?

Arsenicy this is another of those 'things' I am torn by.

Seems to be a weekend for it!

andrewofgg .why compassion did she show any where the hell were her maternal instincts .

We don't know from the reporting so far if it's a determinate or 'life' sentence, I don't think. Reporters do like to report stuff that will get most headlines, but that isn't of much detailed use.

She's not being sentenced for failure of maternal instincts. She was sentenced for her guilty plea to culpable homicide.

I do think the reasons for such a short sentence ought to be given though.

Difficult if some of it does relate to the children.

I don't feel compassion for this woman. She beat her child because he was vomiting. She beat him, left him to die, buried him and the lied to the police. I think the sentence is too short because she should have been tried and convicted of murder.

I'll save my compassion for her other children.

Sorry, Wests children were. She or they may be in future. The similarity (slight) just struck me.

May was given a new identity, as were the others. But she has refused to take it and lives as May West, daughter of 'those' Wests and refuses to let them define her.

On the face of it, it doesn't seem long enough. If this was a father beating his child to death over a prolonged period (it took up to 72 hours for Mikhaeel to die, of horrendous injuries), there would be an outcry over only getting 11 years.

I really don't see the difference re gender of the parent/killer.

The salient point to me is that only some of those children had two involved parents. The twins' dad was a married man. So the surviving twin, particularly, has lost everyone in her small world; Twin, mum and residential siblings (probably). Anything that ensures maximum stability for her long-term has to be prioritised.

She pleaded guilty to cuplable homicide and I was surprised at how long she got considering a lot of people around here expected around 8 years ish. If she had been found guilty at trial it would have been 15 years the judge said.

A newspaper report said she was in Ross House which is for mental health patients. And the summing up mentioned her depression.

Mikaeel's dad and his grandfather (paternal) are apparently both wanting his twin to live with them! The last report was they were battling over her!

The oldest 3 have their dad and did live with him when they were removed previously and the twins went into foster care.

Arsenicy, I don't think there should be a gender difference, that was exactly my point.

So she will be apart from three siblings Grovee living with family she didn't know in her 'former life'?

Arsenicy, I don't think there should be a gender difference, that was exactly my point.

But you think a man getting the same sentence would attract more outcry?