To think an 11 year sentence for Rosdeep Adekoya is perfectly appropriate

[ArsenicyOldFace]

despite what the tabloids will say?

the sentence is not harsh enough for the crime she committed and I suspect a father who did this would have been much more severely treated.

No probably not Uncle but she wasn't convicted of that, was she?

*what do you suggest. a few counselling sessions?

In terms of what the offence was called, no. In terms of what actually happened, what she did is what I described, as reported from the trial.

Arsenicy you talk of the impact a longer sentence would have on her children. But what about the impact her actions will have on them for the rest of their lives? There are now four children in Scotland who will have to live a life of complete and utter torment because of what their mother did. They will always be known at school as the children of a child killer. They will always ask "Why not me? Why was I safe?" and have to live with the guilt of being put into this fucked up raffle where their brother's number got drawn and theirs didn't. They will carry the weight of losing their little brother so young and have to grow up without him. They will never be five again - never be whole. He will always be an absent presence who should be with them, but isn't. She killed one and devastated the lives of the remaining four.

You really, honestly believe those children are going to want anything to do with her when she gets out? She killed their brother. She beat him over a three day period and left him to die in their home, and then hid his poor little body in the woods. She is a wicked, wicked woman.

The sentence wasn't long enough. But hey, Cornton Vale is a hard prison full of the nastiest creatures imaginable. She isn't going to be a very happy bunny there. Not at all. And I don't fancy her chances at the likes of Carstairs State Hospital if she ends up there, either. So while that monsters sentence was utter pish, I have been somewhat calmed by the thought of just how rough a ride she is now in for.

Taking the life of a child apparently buys you 11 years in this case.

What is a child's life worth to you? Because for me, it sure as shit isn't a meager 11 years. Intent or not.

You really, honestly believe those children are going to want anything to do with her when she gets out?

No I don't. I'd guess the opposite. That's why I think it wll be easier for them once she has been resettled somewhere far from Edinburgh.

What is a child's life worth to you? Because for me, it sure as shit isn't a meager 11 years.

It's immeasureable surely?

Uncle I think if she had been hitting and abusing him long-term, the sentence (probably the charge) would very different.

Although I accept that if the undisclosed mitigation is less substantial than I'm assuming, then the sentence is on the short side.

I don't agree that the children will want nothing to do with her. We can't possibly predict that.
They are very young children. She is their mother. They love her.
They are not grown up bystanders commenting on a heinous crime. They are confused and traumatised children who want their mum.
They are likely to be missing her dreadfully.

I think they will want to see her, connect with her and to what extent will differ from child to child.

Adopted children seek out their birth parents. Adoptions are rarely cozy 'she gave me up for a better life' stories now. They involve neglect and abuse and rape and murder in some cases.

As adults, after years of trying to please our parents we may eventually go NC but it can take decades. Look at the Stately Home threads on MN

Why would these children be different?

hmmmmm as much as i would like to think they wont want to see their mother i think they will want to see her as mad as that sounds

it's been proven before that adults that have done terrible crimes/had children taken of them for neglect abuse do have some sort of contact with the offending parent later on

it is hard to understand why especially if it was towards the said child,but it happens