To think an 11 year sentence for Rosdeep Adekoya is perfectly appropriate

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despite what the tabloids will say?

Heysoul, that rings a bell. I think someone posted on a thread a few months ago and said they knew her well.

Think what you like.

I am angry SS returned children to this mother who clearly wasn't fit.

I felt adoption was better for the kids WHEN I THOUGHT THEY WERE BEING FOUGHT OVER.

Save your anger until the Serious Case Review is published. Then you will know if there was failings in the case.

Tip for the future. We can't read your mind. You need to say what you mean, not just think it.

Yes there is somebody who knows her she lived near her and were friendly

It's been fairly clear all along Itsfab that three of the four were with their dad. The fact that a custody dispute might have broken out over the littlest would still have been an eccentric reason (to say the least) to put her up for adoption.

Mitigating circumstances for shooting a burglar, yes. Not for killing a child. I am certain I do not have the meaning wrong but I am sure you will disagree.

Not for killing a child.

So if there is a "custody battle"'then the courts are just supposed to say "tough luck, neither of you can have the child, she is going to adoption"?!

So you think there is no such thing as mitigation in child homicide cases? Legally you are clearly wrong.

Morally, would nothing count with you at all? No illness, psychiatric disorder, trauma, no amount of childhood abuse and dysfunction would justify any consideration in comparison to a cold-blooded kill-for-kicks murderer?

I didn't read the whole thread but heavens, shoot me for posting emotionally.

Will leave the thread now as nothing further to add.

Goodnight.

It just frightens me that people say such things. Sorry.

It makes me despair that adoption myths are still so prevalent
Take these poor trauamatised kids from a family they know and love and get them adopted. Then it will all be alright

Except they won't get adopted. They will be split up and sent to different FC, will probably have to go to FC miles away from their home town. Leave school, nursery, friends and everything they know.

Yeah that will sort them right out and make up for them losing their mum and brother.

Yes, 11 years for a childs life is without a doubt so appropriate

Well if you see sentencing as a transaction, a 'price for a life' no amount would ever be enough would it?

No it wouldn't.
Hth

Not really a basis to work from then.

DeVere I'm sure some people think adoption involves a degree of laundering. I know of two incidents of adoption in the 50s arranged due to maternal death and the attitude single working men couldn't be supported to cope (neither worked out well). There was a horrible flavour of 'starting afresh' being possible/desirable in the files.

Some ideas linger.

No, I don't think 11 years is enough.

In an earlier thread, I compared this case with those of Keanu Shuttleworth and Callum Wilson, where in both cases, the mothers were convicted of murder.

I think the only thing that has prevented a murder conviction in this case, is that there didn't seem to be any sign of previous serious physical abuse/neglect (although we'll have to wait for the SCR) , whereas there had been in the cases mentioned.

As for "the judges know best" I don't view the judiciary as beyond criticism, judges frequently give out trifling sentences for domestic killings.

I don't get the calls to have compassion for her. I don't wish her harm, but I have absolutely no compassion for her whatsoever. She does not deserve my compassion, she committed a truly abhorrent act.

Having Googled Theresa Riggi, I think she's likely to have an extremely hard time in prison.

IPity, Theresa Riggi died in Rampton Hospital earlier this year, but yes, she was apparently attacked while in prison.

HeySoul and Arsenic I was just thinking how that little boy was unloved and there are so many people with lots of love to give and as Arsenic said '.... Life is brutal at times'

I don't see factors in this case that mitigate such a terrible crime. She's not been found mentally unfit. Therefore she can serve her sentence, which should be longer, and I will save my sympathy and compassion for her surviving kids.

Devere I didn't think we were arguing? My point was to keep them together, with family that they know, rather than send one sibling to a complete stranger who just happened to have a biological connection, would be in the all children's best interests. And Neville has confirmed this is happening so I am really glad about that.

I know its moved on slightly but I think adopting children out is a terrible damaging idea these children need their family need to see their siblings adoption wont fix them make their life better imo

As for "the judges know best" I don't view the judiciary as beyond criticism

I suppose I am hoping the sentence is based in them knowing more than us IPity

I understand your point better put like that holly but the world isn't easily rearranged to solve it. I think what is really frightening about this case, is that there wasn't a history of violence, so there is no obvious lesson to dra, no obvious point when SS should have stepped in.

Lonny, DeVere is addressing Itsfab's posts calling for adoption, I think.

Less than a decade likely to be served for systematically abusing a child to death? No, that's not OK.

why is it so wrong to think a killer should be punished?

she did a very evil thing, what do you suggest. a few counselling sessions?

she should be punished.