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Original poster

To wonder if this is for real, and if so, what moron came up with it?! **Trigger warning**

221 replies

StoneTheFlamingCrows · 04/08/2014 23:16

One in three reported rapes happen when the victim has been drinking

If this link is true I am ashamed to work for the nhs. Sad

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ElephantsNeverForgive · 04/08/2014 23:20

There was a very good thread about this, bumping in the hope someone can remember the enough of the title to get search to work.

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StoneTheFlamingCrows · 04/08/2014 23:25

So if me and dp have a glass of wine together tonight and he decides to rape me, it's my fault?! Fucking appalling.

I can't believe I have missed this, when was the thread? Is this a recent thing?!

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MostWicked · 04/08/2014 23:32

I don't think it implies that you deserve it or ask for it, just that when you are drunk, you are more vulnerable to attack.

I have seen similar campaigns reminding people that in the summer months, more people get burgled because they leave their windows open.

People have every right to get drunk and leave their windows open. Nothing excuses the criminals but people can take steps to protect themselves.

PittTheYounger · 04/08/2014 23:32

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StoneTheFlamingCrows · 04/08/2014 23:35

Trigger shite?

To some people reading a poster saying their rape was their fault may be offensive/upsetting.

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snakeandpygmy · 04/08/2014 23:39

Sign the petition

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StoneTheFlamingCrows · 04/08/2014 23:40

Already done snake, and shared

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MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 04/08/2014 23:43

Three in three rapes happen when the rapist decides to commit rape.

Simple as that, really.

WaffleWiffle · 04/08/2014 23:47

One would imagine the nhs researched the 1 in 3 figure before publishing.

If so, why is this simple statement of fact so dreadful of the nhs?

gordyslovesheep · 04/08/2014 23:48

3 in 3 rapes happen because rapists

that is it

the rests is patriarchal victim blaming shite

YAVDNBU

Chiana · 04/08/2014 23:51

I was not raped because I had been drinking. I was raped because the other person in that room decided to rape me.

Also, in many rape cases, the victim was plied with drink and/or was much, much more drunk than her rapist was.

SilverShins · 04/08/2014 23:52

Because it shifts the blame away from the rapist onto the victim and the onus is then on them not to become one. Appalling.

ephemeralfairy · 04/08/2014 23:53

Moomin has summed it up perfectly. This victim blaming makes me so fucking angry.
Stop telling women what to do to escape rape. Start telling men not to rape.

Billynomates71 · 04/08/2014 23:54

I don't think this implies fault? Just that you leave yourself more vulnerable to attack if you are paralytic. Rapists are out there, fact. They will choose to rape, fact. Very drunk females are an easier target, fact. Very drunk females are less likely to remember details that might identify rapist, fact.

I don't think this means women can't have a drink, or even have several. I do think it implies taking a level of personal responsibility for your own safety and well being, to minimise the risk of being attacked. Surely that's just common sense?

fifi669 · 04/08/2014 23:55

It's not victim blaming. It doesn't say they deserve it. It is trying to make people aware of their increased vulnerability when they're pissed, that's all.

gordyslovesheep · 04/08/2014 23:57

is it bollox - why link that only to rape - surely you are vulnerable to mugging and being hit by a car when pissed

and why have a woman in the picture - men get raped to

it's 100% 'women know your place' - and victim blaming

Chiana · 04/08/2014 23:58

Well, speaking as someone who has been raped, it fucking well FEELS like victim blaming.

gordyslovesheep · 04/08/2014 23:58

or as Billy so brilliantly illustrates ...women, have a drink, heck have 'several' but don't get legless now because you might be raped - tut tut

WaffleWiffle · 05/08/2014 00:00

There is no blame attached to the statement of fact.

ICanSeeTheSun · 05/08/2014 00:02

How do they get the data for the 1 in 3.

It could be a number of scenario. A wife raped by her husband after a few drinks, a women having a drink with a man who was a friend and I bet other times where a women who is having a drink with someone she trusts.

It's victim blaming.

VinoTime · 05/08/2014 00:02
Shock

That's bloody disgraceful!

gordyslovesheep · 05/08/2014 00:03

so what is the POINT of the fact then?

it's telling WOMEN not to get drunk because MEN might rape them

why not just tell men NOT TO RAPE people

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 05/08/2014 00:03

To those saying it's a statement of fact; it's a statement of fact presented in a way that suggests a causal relationship. It's portrayed in a way that suggests that 1 in 3 rapes could be prevented by the woman not getting drunk. How can they possibly know that?

gordyslovesheep · 05/08/2014 00:05

exactly Moomin are they saying then that 1 in 3 rapes wouldn't have happened if the woman was sober???

it's not the woman's fault - drunk or sober

it's NOT the issue

ICanSeeTheSun · 05/08/2014 00:06

Just ask my DH if he has ever seen a rape 'preventing' poster in any men's toilet he has been in while out drinking he said no.

I urge other MN to ask thier DP or brothers uncles ect the same.

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