IABU to ask you to guess my pay from my job description?

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If I describe my job, could you tell me what you think my pay might be/what would be fair remuneration?

Highly specialised role within a not-for-profit sector
Most jobs in London/south of UK, so had to relocate to get into the industry
Required to travel overseas 4-6 times per year
Manage a small team, which is the department for the whole company
Present our product to international clients; most of our business is in Asia
High level of expertise and 8 years of experience in the industry
Take part in several senior committees within the company
Daily international meetings via conference
Originate, authorise, and sign contracts
Report on trends, achieve a set target revenue (increasing every year despite a difficult market)

High academic qualifications are required and many colleagues are Oxbridge/Ivy League educated.

And... out of curiosity, what is your profession and do you feel adequately compensated for your time?

Callmeexhausted, you must work impossibly hard. Good health to you and your family. I'm not fishing for anything; I'm curious about other industries but wouldn't be good at what most of my friends do. And I'm going through a stressful, busy, overwhelmed time at work because the work is shared between a small team and the buck stops with me. It cheers me up to think that there could be a job out there that I could be good at but that would do more than give us a bit of extra money after childcare.

Change jobs.For as long as you settle for that salary that's what they'll pay you
Given you've hinted,shown boss salary scales.is boss able to increase your salary

Ooo-kay, FidelineAndBombazine.

Bitter much tonight? I think you're reading things into the OP that aren't there.

YABU

What is it about your job that is highly specialised?

Cuntsure, I'm trying not to be too obvious about my exact role but it is specialised in that there aren't all that many of us within the UK industry compared to other roles. Most people handle specific territories but I look after them all, and I have niche knowledge about lots of markets. It's not specialised as in technical.

Thanks for the helpful comments from some and supportive comments from others. I am probably not woman enough for IABU but I wanted to get lots of opinions. And I did, so... thanks

Aside from it being a not for profit, sounds very like my job in academic publishing. And that pays peanuts.

Thanks for the book rec fanjobiscuits. I'd love to say it's one of our books, but that'd be a lie.

Yeah struggle to see what is specialised about your job.

That salary is shocking... But publishing has had the arse drop out of it in the past 15 years so it doesn't shock me.

Can't you look for a diagonal move to another similar company. That will objectify whether you are under paid. It will also focus your current employer on how much they value you.

Good luck with the salary review.

Publishing is one of the worst sectors wrt pay isn't it?

I'm not surprised it's publishing after all. Especially not for profit too.

So what is your salary? What is just under national average? You say it brings in $500k profits. Is it US$? I'm suprised with your responsibility you earn only $27k in the south east.

I'm also in the south east and also out of the London commuter belt. Ie over an hour on train, but some people still commute to London. FYI I work with with people mostly with mid ranking university degrees. It is a technical area but not really that specialised. You can be considered senior after 3-5 years in industry. And it has the highest level of unemployment amongst graduates. I have seen the job ads and the graduates are getting around £25k. I can tell you what mine is as a team lead of a small team of 4. But it won't be useful to you as I'm in a different industry. But it looks like you aren't getting much better than graduates!

RTFT Carmine! So, I was right, publishing... And peanuts! We're all hideously underpaid.

Ooh carmine I wonder if we do the same thing? I have been trying to build a group of us to share skills and knowledge. Apparently there used to be some faaaabulous lunches in the early 00s in my area but everybody got too senior and the lunches faded away in the recession.

Oh and we don't work very hard. Strictly 9-5.30 office hours.

Marmoset, perhaps specialised was the wrong word then. I didn't mean to mislead. As I said, I don't meet many people who do my job so it seems specialised to me. I moved from another area of the business to take an increase in responsibility, but sadly not much in the way of pay.

How few people have to do a job for it to be specialist? No one does the exact same job as me as far as I'm aware but maybe 20 similar, and 80 more broadly similar. No bearing on my salary sadly

X post!

Toddlerterror, I can't fault my normal hours, though I do work remotely outside of my hours and I have the travel to factor in. There's no where else for the work to go if I'm away, ill, or on holiday though so I actually find holiday quite stressful, plus the trips take a huge amount of prep and things build up while I'm away. I think a more relaxed person would do the job differently so I do bring lots of this on myself, unfortunately.

Bless.

I'm in editorial... So not quite the same! And the hours and flexibility are great, you're right there. :)

Oh and blonde I love the idea that somewhere a minor royal is reading this and feeling short changed by her pay

XiCi in answer to your question: many small reasons why I haven't changed; I've been on mat leave, we're stuck in this area because of my DH's job, I like the company and management has changed so things are improving. I've had some management coaching which has changed my thinking about myself as a professional. It's a safe job for me as I know what I 'm doing, know my company and my clients etc. it's easy for the years to slip by.

I'm thinking hard about that now.

So will you change jobs or not?if you stay put you'll likely remain same salary

Scottishmummy I keep meaning to answer your sensible questions and then getting sidetracked on my phone.

I've been looking at jobs for a few years and applied for a couple in different parts of publishing but wasn't offered the job. Very little comes up that would be more interesting to me than my own job and salaries are early advertised so it's difficult to judge. I have been lazy about finding out about other industries and can't picture what I could move to without a pay cut that I would also enjoy.

Not for profit mostly because I took an interesting job in not for profit and suddenly it's 8 years later and here I am. Though my area is obviously measured mostly on profit so it's quite a two-sided coin.

You're languishing 8yr on,and not very proactive looking for another post
So,you know if you want salary increase you'll need ti move.and consider corporate publishing
Skills are transferable,you're competent.and you want more money

Its all v worthy being in non profit sector,if your financially comfortable and can bathe in worthiness
But in reality worthy non profit pays fuck all.so go corporate,change roles