IABU to ask you to guess my pay from my job description?

[upyourninja]

If I describe my job, could you tell me what you think my pay might be/what would be fair remuneration?

Highly specialised role within a not-for-profit sector
Most jobs in London/south of UK, so had to relocate to get into the industry
Required to travel overseas 4-6 times per year
Manage a small team, which is the department for the whole company
Present our product to international clients; most of our business is in Asia
High level of expertise and 8 years of experience in the industry
Take part in several senior committees within the company
Daily international meetings via conference
Originate, authorise, and sign contracts
Report on trends, achieve a set target revenue (increasing every year despite a difficult market)

High academic qualifications are required and many colleagues are Oxbridge/Ivy League educated.

And... out of curiosity, what is your profession and do you feel adequately compensated for your time?

[upyourninja]

Do jog on fideline, there's a dear.

[Lottiedoubtie]

You sound underpaid to me. Good luck with the negotiations!

[fanjobiscuits]

Cross post. For negotiating, Getting to Yes is a good book.

[FidelineAndBombazine]

upyourninja Thu 24-Jul-14 19:28:27

Have you had enough guessing now? It will spoil my fun grin

I am very good at my job. Everyone agrees

[Serenitysutton]

I don't understand how publishing can be not for profit- does it have social objectives?

I was earning more than that as a finance assistant 10 years ago- basic finance analysis and journalling. So
It does sound pretty crap.

[scottishmummy]

Sales isnt well paid.publishing can be a destination for mc grads
Issue is its not regulated,its not a profession,there no career progression as such
If you want more money,or more graded career path id go sideway into something else

[arethereanyleftatall]

Good luck. I reckon most people are underpaid, and that's why I'll never work for a corporate again. Rather work for myself.

[ChickenFajitaAndNachos]

Is there a prize for the winner?

[scottishmummy]

Are you only want to work in non-profit sector?would you consider a corporate post

[HandMini]

I would wave some of these salary studies for your industry that you mention at your boss rather than quote this thread.

I would also check out recruiters in your area (if it is a role that's headhunted) and ask them.

Be honest with yourself as to whether there are perks that make a lower salary worth it. I earn a good salary but I'd happily give some of it up for more flexibility, a more sustainable career and not having to be on the Blackberry pretty frequently outside normal working hours. An understanding and promoting boss is worth many £ of salary as they will help you progress.

Good luck.

[fluffymouse]

Bit of a dripfeedy annoying post.

Op as many posters have said your job description has little bearing with your pay.

Did you not research the salary before choosing to work in this industry?

[ExcuseTypos]

You do sound very under paid.

[GodDamnBatman]

It doesn't matter what we think you should get paid. What matters is supply and demand. If there's a low supply and high demand you will get paid more, if there's a low demand you'll probably get paid less.

I'm in the current boat that there's high supply and high demand, so while my field pays well, it's tricky finding a job when you have tons of applicants applying for the same thing with similar qualifications.

[ExcuseTypos]

And if you find the thread annoying- just hide it.

It's not annoying to ask a question!

[turnaroundbrighteyes]

Third sector jobs are notoriously underpaid and often have a family instead of business culture leading to high staff turnover.

Remember my ex-boss gleefully introducing me to "my local authority equivalent" who manged one authority, with a much smaller budget on a salary of £35k pa. Whilst I managed the whole region and a budget of around £1m for £20k.

[scottishmummy]

Bottom line is if your field gets away with paying that,they will.esp. if grads apply
Unfortunately if too many grads chase job,it keeps wages low.And people do accept low wages because its non-profit

[XiCi]

I can't believe that anyone would work a job with that job description for that little money. I would feel like they were taking the piss out of me. Why haven't you used your experience to get a better paid job if you are feeling so undervalued?

[smokepole]

18K a year ! I guess and your qualifications are totally pointless for getting a decent salary ,otherwise why would you post . However I bet people without qualifications are looking at zero hours contracts and 10-14 Hrs a week at £6.31 PH if lucky.

[upyourninja]

Handmini, salaries surveys have been handed to my boss at every opportunity, but sadly the big sector one was too late this year for me to use it. I am trying to steel myself for some hard bargaining next time.

[HighwayDragon]

YABU

[upyourninja]

Brighteyes that would make me fume! Rather tactless of your boss. Did it prompt you to make any changes?

[scottishmummy]

For as long as employer can fill posts at that wage they will.supply and demand
Onus is in you if you want higher salary to retrain in area that pays salary you want
Out of interest why non-profit sector?whats your degree in?are there jobs in degree area?

[CallMeExhausted]

FWIW... I am a hold a specialised degree. I care for a medically fragile child essentially 24/7 in a role that, if I were not related to her, would require very specialised training. I could write a job description that might seem like a 100k+ position.

I make a big fat ZERO for my "work" - because she is my daughter - but save the government nearly 1/4 million annually because she is not institutionalised.

What, exactly, are you fishing for?

[Bonbonbonbon]

I would guess around £40-45k, but £45-55k in private sector.

[upyourninja]

And to complete the annoying drip feed, I do love my job, and it has fairly high job security, a rapidly improving management structure and mission, and I've been there a long time. There's a real culture of trust in my office and my colleagues are great. I don't take that for granted.

To be honest, no one in my family had been to uni before or had moved away for work. I had no idea about many industries as my home area doesn't have many career options. The industry suits my skills and interests and I am good at my work, though I find it quite hectic and draining.

To top it off, I'm a parent hoping for more children and my husband's job is incredibly hard on all of us (travels a lot on short notice, stressful and dangerous etc) so I have factor in being the default parent, being responsible for childcare etc. that hasn't affected my job but I can see that it would affect my prospects.