To smoke in the garden at a party?

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I lit up at a family bbq yesterday. Outside, big garden. The hostess (an inlaw) went a bit off her head and jumped from out of her own arse to right down my throat. Very publicly. There were children there, but they were playing a good way away. I have always done this at her parties, but now she has moved to a different, bigger house (it was a housewarming) it seems the goalposts have moved quite considerably. I was angry and upset at being shouted at like a kid. It's a party, right? A boozy housewarming (her words not mine).

Am I a social pariah?

AIBU?

That's nice. However I do give a bit of a shit about being accused of things I haven't done. To accuse me like that and then blithely carry on without acknowledging it is, IMO, very inconsiderate.

Is it just me or this a bit silly? hmm

it's not just you Garden, it is totally silly. Sorry but I don't think a rational discussion with NameChange is possible, as she is frankly totally a tad irrational.

next time educate yourself before posting

what, like you educated yourself that this thread was about smoking in open outdoor spaces before coming in with your moot links about the effects of smoke in enclosed places?

yesterday I actually thought you were a bored school child just popped in to stir things up during the school hols, you are all over the place.

I have no idea why either of you care so much what a stranger thinks of smokers...however this 'debate' is pointless as no one is going to change their mind.

so to avoid wasting anyone's time, i'll leave it at that other than enjoy the sunshine.

in your garden
with or without smokers

I can't see where PlentyOfPubeGardens said she found your dh's illness funny, NameChange. No-one is saying it is funny that cigarette smoke makes your dh ill.

Some of you are determined to maximise the effects of that, with hilarious consequences. I find it all very interesting.

which is the bit that's hilarious?

the bit where you don't get that

No one at any point has defended smoking indoors, smoking indoors in the presence of people with illnesses, smoking indoors while it’s forbidden by the home owner, or defended blowing smoke in peoples face as some kind of joke.

It's hilarious because this thread is about outdoors at a BBQ, or outdoors in open spaces in general.

You come along and start on about your mother in law smoking indoors in the presence of your sick DH. About people lighting up in your studio apartment against your wishes, about your friend’s fat old alcoholic boyfriend blowing cigarette smoke in your face. As bad as these things are, they aren’t relevant to this debate because no one is defending them, talking about them, or proposing they should be allowed or tolerated. So why even mention them in this debate, why not start whole new AIBU? You post links that are totally irrelevant to this debate as they pertain to smoking in confined spaces, not gardens with barbeques.

Shoot me by all means, but I do find it hilarious when someone throws their toys out of the pram because it's pointed out to them that they're being a bit of a prat.

I really did think you were a bored school kid doing a "wind up the mummies" thread yesterday.

but thread don't stick to only one point. posters make various related comments.

but by all means find it hilarious if you like. I find very different things funny.

I thought the 'hilarious consequences' isn't referring to the consequences that second hand smoke has for other people. Blubirdy thinks people on here have hugely exaggerated the effect that cigarette smoke has on them (I disagree), and I think it is these exaggerations she is referring to as hilarious consequences - ie. 'the consequence of trying to convince others of the terrible effects second hand smoke can have is hilarious exaggerations'.

maybe, but which post is the hilarious exaggeration?
there must be many of them.

Related or not at all related…. it's tomAHto or tomAYto

at the end of the day NameChange you exaggerated in an attempt to make a point. You got called on it. You threw your toys out of the pram when that happened. There was no need to stoop so low as to say some one laughed at your partner’s health condition when everyone reading it knows she just laughed at you throwing a wobbly.

Kick the ball NameChange, not the player.

you exaggerated in an attempt to make a point

where?
and how could you possibly know if a stranger is exaggerating?

oh and you aren't very self aware are you.

Let's call the whole thing off - @ blubirdy.

oh and I am quite entitled to throw a wobbly when dickheads minimise the effects of smoking on others.

I thought the 'hilarious consequences' isn't referring to the consequences that second hand smoke has for other people. Blubirdy thinks people on here have hugely exaggerated the effect that cigarette smoke has on them (I disagree), and I think it is these exaggerations she is referring to as hilarious consequences - ie. 'the consequence of trying to convince others of the terrible effects second hand smoke can have is hilarious exaggerations'.

Yes to all of that.

But can I just add.... I have never ever defended smoking indoors in enclosed spaces, or laughed at the real risks of that. What I did laugh at, and I was far from the only one, was things like.... "I catch a cold if I walk past a smoker on the street". As another poster said at the time, (am paraphrasing now) "it's entering twilight zone territory when the common cold gets blamed on a smoker at a barbeque".

There is a VERY sensible against passive smoking. There is also the ridiculous "I puke if the man 3 streets away lights up when he gets out the car". I am pro of the former, very anti of the latter.

"I catch a cold if I walk past a smoker on the street

who said that? I cannot find it on a search. quote what I said or fuck off.

oh and I am quite entitled to throw a wobbly when dickheads minimise the effects of smoking on others

You go on sweety, get it all out. Can I maybe suggest bitch and titwank too.

quote what I said or fuck off

LOL

go on. if you can stand up your argument. if not.. well I will assume you cannot.

why don't you just read the thread, it's all there.

no you misquoted me to stand up your argument. so you need to quote correctly or your argument does not stand.

you need to get a grip as I didn't at any point say you said xyz

you can read, right? go back and try to doing it slower this time.

I have done a search for the word 'cold' there were 13 uses and no one said anything like what you said.