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WIBU to call 101 on my nasty, naked neighbour?

258 replies

Pumpkinpositive · 26/06/2014 23:54

Just that. Is it a police matter?

11:30 pm. Dark outside. Neighbour in flat directly opposite mine, lights on, no curtains in bedroom, wondering back and forward around bedroom bollock naked chatting to girlfriend (clothed).

This is a tenement flat with large, below-the-waist height windows. One cannot be oblivious to the potential of neighbours copping an eyeful.

I don't want to go all Plymouth Brethren on someone if it's just a one off. Should I wait for a repeat performance?

This person is hermetically sealed to his desktop pc 24/7 and I have long harboured suspicions about what he may be watching. The flat also has a history of previous tenants shagging against the selfsame bedroom window at 11am on a weekday morning.

Perfectly prepared to be told I am BU. Smile

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PhaedraIsMyName · 28/06/2014 14:31

Second the lack of net curtains and blinds. That would be very odd. The streets around me have huge bay windows, curtains are hardly ever closed (possibly because like ours they are such a faff)except when it's really cold. Not unusual not to have curtains at all and just close the shutters in winter. We didn't have curtains in our living room for years, the cost of curtains for windows that size was eye-watering.

In my long experience of Edinburgh tenement life I'd say it's expected people can see into your living room. My flat has its own garden which backs on to the gardens in the next street but the height of the building behind (and the fact there will always be workmen on scaffolding somewhere) means it's probably easy to see in to the rooms at the back, one of which is uncovered glass floor to ceiling, so I would close the curtains if I were getting changed and wouldn't be naked in the room with no curtains.

prettybird · 28/06/2014 14:46

Lucked : we do that too. Many people (even in the Shields) don't shut their curtains (even in winter) so it's really interesting when you go for a walk to see all the different decors Grin - just like an Avril Paton painting.

We only shut our curtains in winter 'cos of the astronomical heating costs, not 'cos of concern that people will be able to see in. If they choose to look, then let 'em Wink

prettybird · 28/06/2014 14:48

...although what this thread illustrates is how different people's attitudes to nudity is. Smile

Pipbin · 28/06/2014 15:36

*I loved evening walks and having a nosey at everyone's decor. And yes I would know the layout of the flats opposite and who was home at what time if day. I was working shifts at the time so get a real feel for people's comings and goings.

Don't admit to that on this thread. Seriously.*

Looking in someone's window as you walk passed is one thing.
Looking in someone's window and then wondering if you should call the police because some

Pipbin · 28/06/2014 15:36

Because someone is naked in their own house is quite another!

(Damn phone)

giggly · 28/06/2014 17:09

Ha, reminds me of sitting at traffic lights on Argyle St just before The Goat, looking up just as a guy walked towards the window bollock naked. I gave him a fabulous smile to which he blew me a kiss.

Seemed the natural thing to do at the time.

skolastica · 28/06/2014 17:57

Big windows opposite big windows mean that it's almost impossible to not look in someone else's window when you are looking out of your own. Just the way it is. Not peeping Tom stuff at all. How long can anyone go in a day without looking out of their window?

WorraLiberty · 28/06/2014 18:04

I just can't for the life of me, work out why some people react this way to the human body.

It's just a glimpse of nudity, no more and no less.

It's not like he was sitting there squashing tiny kittens

Sallyingforth · 28/06/2014 21:28

Indeed Worra.
There is nothing at all wrong with the human body, seen as it was created.

Beauty (or disgust) is in the eye of the the beholder.

Pipbin · 28/06/2014 22:20

I do hate the way that so many seem to be unable to disassociate nudity from sex. There is nothing wrong with a naked body, everyone has one.

PhaedraIsMyName · 28/06/2014 23:04

There is nothing at all wrong with the human body, seen as it was created

Such a MN right on comment. In reality 99.9% of people look hideous naked. Other people's genitals are not a pretty sight.

Sallyingforth · 29/06/2014 10:27

The more I think of this the more ridiculous it seems.
Someone has watched a man in his own house across the street, through two windows.
The watcher has been able to see the man's bare buttocks, and if they looked closely enough, perhaps even glimpsed his penis. Shock horror! Call the police!

What actual harm was he doing?
It seems to me that the man and his partner are the victims here,.
He has been spied on over a period to observe that he uses his computer a great deal.
He was watched long enough on this occasion to establish that he was talking to his partner.

How has the watcher suffered from this ?
Fear? Disgust? Envy? Guilt?

It's just - ridiculous.

Pipbin · 29/06/2014 10:33

I thought about this thread last night when I saw Sarah Millican on a re run of 8 out of 10 cats.

She said that when she was living alone she got used to walking round in just her pants. The flat opposite was empty and so she didn't bother to draw the curtains. Then a friend came round and pointed out that a group of lads had moved into the empty flat.
She carried on, as she said 'if they see me in my pants I'm still the winner. They can shut their curtains if they don't like it'.

PhaedraIsMyName · 29/06/2014 11:27

So Sallyingforth the neighbour can do what he wants in his house but the OP looking out her windows in her house is "spying"

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?

Sallyingforth · 29/06/2014 12:12

"spying" is no more ridiculous than "nasty" in the thread title.

They are each free to behave normally inside their own houses. That includes being undressed when they wish (as I am right now with the sun streaming in through the open window).

When they go outside or look outside, they may expect to find things that don't accord with their own personal taste.

prettybird · 29/06/2014 12:24

I thought about this thread as I made the tea and then tidied the kitchen while it was brewing this morning in the nuddy - with the blinds of our large windows open GrinShock

limitedperiodonly · 29/06/2014 12:37

I keep being drawn back to this thread.

All I can say is that it's made me google pix of Glasgow and Edinburgh tenements and I am now seriously Envy

AgentProvocateur · 29/06/2014 12:41

Here's an interesting fact about tenements - in the bedroom, the ceiling light is traditionally at the window, rather than in the centre of the room, so that in the olden days, when presumably there were nets on the window, your neighbours over the road wouldn't see you getting changed.

prettybird · 29/06/2014 13:10

limitedperiod - it does spoil you forever Grin. We looked for two years at "ordinary" (and far more expensive) houses on the North Side before giving in and finding our (now) house on the South Side first evening of looking: a conversion of a lovely Victorian house with glorious high ceilings and fantastic large windows but astronomical heating bills Smile. Love the fact that we can have a 10 foot Christmas tree - which is still nowhere near the ceiling Grin.

Could never go back to an "ordinary" house.

limitedperiodonly · 29/06/2014 13:15

Stop it now prettybird or I may have to jump on the train at Kings Cross and hurt you. It's a five or six hour journey but it'll probably still be light enough for your neighbours to see me kill you.

limitedperiodonly · 29/06/2014 13:22

I might pull the curtains for that btw.

Do you have them or should I bring my own, concealing the blunt instrument? It's my dad's trusty pickaxe, so it's blunt and sharp in one.

KatieKaye · 29/06/2014 13:39

Giggling like mad at that "fact" about tenements,
Did you know that if you hold a Guinean pig up by the tail it's eyes drop out?

stephenisjustcoming · 29/06/2014 14:05

This thread has everything. Etymology, art history, etiquette, Friends reference, the law, police despatchers, forensic MN prosecution barristers dissecting every word of the OP...

Isn't this a time when a simple Paddington Bear Hard Stare should be enough? Looking up to see someone scowling at him across the road might just remind him that he's not as private as he thinks. Or failing that, wait until the girlfriend's there, and pop a postcard through the letterbox saying, 'Phwoar, I've seen you strutting your naked stuff in your flat and I'm liking what I'm seeing. Fancy a drink?' She could nip it in the bud (ow) for you...

KatieKaye · 29/06/2014 15:35

How about a broad smile and a cheery wave?
With a side helping of tolerance.

WorraLiberty · 29/06/2014 15:40

Such a MN right on comment. In reality 99.9% of people look hideous naked. Other people's genitals are not a pretty sight.

Wow that's a pretty high percentage there

Just out of interest, what percentage of clothed people do you deem to look hideous, and should they close their blinds too, so as not to upset anyone who might look at them?

It's. just. a. glimpse. of. a. naked. body.

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