WIBU to call 101 on my nasty, naked neighbour?

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Just that. Is it a police matter?

11:30 pm. Dark outside. Neighbour in flat directly opposite mine, lights on, no curtains in bedroom, wondering back and forward around bedroom bollock naked chatting to girlfriend (clothed).

This is a tenement flat with large, below-the-waist height windows. One cannot be oblivious to the potential of neighbours copping an eyeful.

I don't want to go all Plymouth Brethren on someone if it's just a one off. Should I wait for a repeat performance?

This person is hermetically sealed to his desktop pc 24/7 and I have long harboured suspicions about what he may be watching. The flat also has a history of previous tenants shagging against the selfsame bedroom window at 11am on a weekday morning.

Perfectly prepared to be told I am BU.

Because he's never off it. I actually wondered if he'd died sitting up at one point.

So I assume you are watching him 24/7 then? In which case yes, call the police & report yourself for being a peeping tom.

lose your curtains & stop spying on your neighbours!!

You haven't read the thread, have you? My blinds went down pronto. And I explained the circumstances in which I saw him. It wasn't exactly something I was expecting to see walking into my living room.

So I assume you are watching him 24/7 then? In which case yes, call the police & report yourself for being a peeping tom.

You can assume anything you like. But if you're suspicious that a crime has been committed, why not contact MNHQ and ask them to forward my IP address to the local constabulary? That would be the actions of an upstanding citizen.

I'm sure once Strathclyde's finest hear of the crime, the first thing they'll think of is, "Oh yes, Glasgow tenement - there's no way anyone could have seen a naked neighbour directly across unless they were peeping/voyeuring/using binoculars."

You are very defensive op! You are the one who said he is on his computer 24/7, which indicates that you MUST be spending a good amount of time noticing what he does.

I can see into the back of my neighbours house who is at the end of my garden. I am up there quite often as we have live stock. But I couldn't' tell you what she does 24/7 because I don't tend to look because I don't care even if I did see her on her pc, I certainly don't think I was in the position to speculate what she was looking at.

You call him nasty. You accuse him of using his pc for less then innocent means. You saw him naked on one occasion.

All that adds up to you being a fantasist. Not him being a serial flasher.

I wonder if you would feel the same if it was woman you saw.

I walked into my living room hardly expecting to see a naked man in front of the window opposite. I would actually expect to see something from at some point if I lived in such close proximity to a neighbours bedroom. With such a close view, it is only a matter of time before someone sees something that they don't want to, not because anyone is trying to show them selves off, but because you can see into a bedroom, and lots of people get naked in bedrooms.

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I agreevthstbpeople have the rightvtovwalk around their own home males if they so wish.
However people also have the right to enjoy their own homes without having to look at naked people.
You couldn't walk down the street naked because its illegal.
What if it was a young girl looking out of the window instead of the op?
Would that be OK?

Living in a tenement flat means communal living - not only with your immediate neighbours, but with those adjoining/opposite. You will see and hear them. Fact of life. From what you have described there is no intent of exposure here.

You saw this guy naked in his own flat across the road. He was not walking into your living room as you put it. that is just ridiculous overhype. This man was also talking to a female person, who may or may not have been his partner. If you'd looked out and saw them having sex (in his own flat) what would you have done?

the info about him being on the computer is irrelevant. He could be applying for jobs online; researching for an academic paper; or even doing work as a computer programmer. He might be watching porn, he might even be a porn-watching naturist. You don't know. It's a one-off incident, but you do seem to watch him rather a lot. Which is rather obtrusive for him.

It seems to have been a one off incident for goodness sake the guys not standing at the window swinging his bits.

Poor guy probably never thought about neighbours

I do think calling him nasty and speculating about his computer activity is a bit unfair though

You are very defensive op!

Lol! On this thread, I have been repeatedly called a voyeur, peeping Tom, pervert, ogler, prude and now a fantasist. This despite myself and other posters explaining the set up of the Glasgow tenement and someone even helpfully posting a picture demonstrating the kind of kind of overlook you get directly across.

I think I've been relatively equilibrious in the face of all the insults.

You call him nasty. You accuse him of using his pc for less then innocent means

You do realise the comment about what he looks at was a joke right? Hence the "" after the remark. Or do I have to insert a "LOLZ/SNARFLE/TEN THOUSAND EMOTICONS" as well?

I couldn't care less what he looks at, or whether he wanders around the house in the buff all the time. But people should at least close the blinds if they're going to do that, imo. And yes, that would also apply to a woman, why on earth not?

I would actually expect to see something from at some point if I lived in such close proximity to a neighbours bedroom. With such a close view, it is only a matter of time before someone sees something that they don't want to,

The good denizens of this area don't appear to share your views. Hence why I got a bit shocked, it was so unexpected. People round here, myself included, close their curtains. This wasn't someone hastening to get changed quickly - that wouldn't bother me.

But seriously, you've accused me of being a fantasist and a peeping Tom. The first one isn't a crime but the second one is. Why not report me to MNHQ? They can report to Strathclyde Police who can decide whether poor neighbour needs protection from the likes of me. I don't get the reluctance.

He was not walking into your living room as you put it

Where did I say that?? .

That would be ridiculous hyperbole.

It seems to have been a one off incident for goodness sake the guys not standing at the window swinging his bits

Agreed. Fantasism would have been to claim he does it all the time. When the surprise wore off, I put it down to a one off.

People round here, myself included, close their curtains.

and one of them didn't, you saw in and didn't like what you saw. You then drew your own curtains, which you'd neglected to do earlier (despite the above statement) and the problem went away.

There isn't actually a law that says "if you live in a tenement flat then you must close your curtains." And the drawing of curtains is not normally seen as an act of protecting other people but to preserve your own privacy.

You've accused your neighbour of being "nasty" without any good reason, merely because you saw into his flat when he was naked in his bedroom. Most people are naked in their bedrooms at least twice a day.

This is where you said it - on this very page:
It wasn't exactly something I was expecting to see walking into my living room.

I see now that you may have meant to say "It wasn't something I was expecting to see when I walked into my living room" but the sentence as originally written has a different meaning to what you intended and you can't blame me for that.

and one of them didn't, you saw in and didn't like what you saw. You then drew your own curtains, which you'd neglected to do earlier (despite the above statement) and the problem went away.

I'm talking about drawing your curtains when you intend to get undressed. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

People don't close their curtains/blinds during the day/evening unless for a particular reason.

I see now that you may have meant to say "It wasn't something I was expecting to see when I walked into my living room" but the sentence as originally written has a different meaning to what you intended and you can't blame me for that.

Don't be ridiculous. It was already well established in the OP he was in his flat across the street. No reasonable person would have read that sentence and thought I was suggesting he'd somehow managed to leapfrog between the two apartments and enter my living room.

If he had walked naked into my living room, I would have called the police.

There isn't actually a law that says "if you live in a tenement flat then you must close your curtains." And the drawing of curtains is not normally seen as an act of protecting other people but to preserve your own privacy

True, dat. Although in the case I linked to earlier, there does seem to be some sort of responsibility not to wander around one's property naked in plain view. The judge accepted the exposure wasn't of a sexual nature, which is why he was convicted of Breach of the Peace.

Yabu of course !

You seem to be re-inventing what you say. Earlier you said:
People round here, myself included, close their curtains. Nothing about I'm talking about drawing your curtains when you intend to get undressed.

so no, I am not being obtuse or unreasonable. You can't blame me because you
a) write a sentence that has a different meaning from the one you intended and
b) make blanket statements about X which you later amend to "X when Y".

this is AIBU. I am one of many people here who think YABU. Over-defensive rudeness about your communication skills isn't going to convince me otherwise.

I think the real problem is you perceive this man to be "nasty" without any actual evidence.

You seem to be re-inventing what you say. Earlier you said:
People round here, myself included, close their curtains. Nothing about I'm talking about drawing your curtains when you intend to get undressed.

so no, I am not being obtuse or unreasonable. You can't blame me because you
a) write a sentence that has a different meaning from the one you intended and
b) make blanket statements about X which you later amend to "X when Y".

We are talking about a situation in which someone gets undressed with the curtains open. I thought it would be plain that I was referring to closing your curtains to get undressed. Why would people routinely keep their curtains closed all day, particularly during summer?

However fair enough, perhaps that wasn't clear.

People round here, myself included, have their curtains/blinds open during the day and close them at night. Other occasions on which they'd be closed is to get undressed/wander around naked (presumably).

If you are entirely convinced there is a legal precedent then obviously you are entirely reasonable in wanting to call the police and ask for him to be charged with being naked in his bedroom.

Good luck with that.

If you are entirely convinced there is a legal precedent then obviously you are entirely reasonable in wanting to call the police and ask for him to be charged with being naked in his bedroom.

I'm not entirely convinced of anything. By the same token I'm not convinced if I decided to wander around my flat naked with blinds open I wouldn't end up in court. Another poster believed there had been several cases where this had happened and the case I linked to showed someone being prosecuted for it happening on a single occasion.

I don't want him to be prosecuted. I just want him to close his blinds whilst getting undressed/wandering around naked. Since it only happened once, I'm happy to assume it was a one off.

Many people, including those living in tenement flats, do get changed/dressed/undressed with the curtains open. They don't see the necessity to close them to get changed and then open then again two minutes later because they don't expect anybody to be looking through their bedroom window.

I think the op is perfectly within her rights to not have a man illuminated fully naked over the road.

Doesn't everyone else?

My neighbours kitchen window looks pretty much directly into my kitchen window. Neither of us have any window covering and are fine about it. If we catch each other's eye then we wave.
If one day my neighbours happened to walk round their kitchen billy bollocks naked then I would look the other way and laugh about it. If it was happening every day then I might get annoyed.
If he was stood there with his old chap in his hands, then I would call the police.

Op, you refer to the neighbour as nasty, yet give no reason for this. Has this happened before? Has he done other things that make you think he is nasty? If he was Johnny Depp would you be calling the police still?

If he was stood in front of his window masturbating whilst making eye contact with you, then you might have a point.

As it is sitting on ones PC 24/7 whilst unhealthy is not illegal (thankfully!)