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WIBU to call 101 on my nasty, naked neighbour?

258 replies

Pumpkinpositive · 26/06/2014 23:54

Just that. Is it a police matter?

11:30 pm. Dark outside. Neighbour in flat directly opposite mine, lights on, no curtains in bedroom, wondering back and forward around bedroom bollock naked chatting to girlfriend (clothed).

This is a tenement flat with large, below-the-waist height windows. One cannot be oblivious to the potential of neighbours copping an eyeful.

I don't want to go all Plymouth Brethren on someone if it's just a one off. Should I wait for a repeat performance?

This person is hermetically sealed to his desktop pc 24/7 and I have long harboured suspicions about what he may be watching. The flat also has a history of previous tenants shagging against the selfsame bedroom window at 11am on a weekday morning.

Perfectly prepared to be told I am BU. Smile

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RidgyTipper · 27/06/2014 18:15

What are tenements? Blocks of flats? (I have no comment to pass on the OP's situation, I'm just curious)

Sallyingforth · 27/06/2014 18:57

What nonsense.OP has every right to look out her windows even if that means she's looking into the flat opposite if that's the way they are built. Her neighbour on the other hand , depending on his intent , does not have the right to walk around naked in her sight.

I cannot believe you are being serious. Phaedra.

The very idea that someone should not be unclothed within their own house just in case some prude someone with an aversion to human bodies might peer in is just laughable.

PhaedraIsMyName · 27/06/2014 19:06

Tenement was originally a term which just meant a landholding from Latin tenere meaning to hold or possess. In the 4 Scottish cities it came to mean a purpose built block of flats.

Scotland started building purpose built flats from as early as mid 17th century. Modern flats are not "tenements". Each of the cities has its own vernacular style of traditional tenement.

"Tenement" is not a pejorative term. In Edinburgh for example some of the most expensive houses in the city are Georgian tenement flats in the New Town and there are several other prestigious areas which are tenemental property.

I live in one of the posh areas in Edinburgh in a flat and I'd take that any day over suburbia. I'd actually prefer the less posh areas like Gorgie/Leith/Dalry over the suburbs.

PhaedraIsMyName · 27/06/2014 19:16

Sallyingforth laugh away. If his intent is to expose himself for sexual purposes he does not have the right to walk around naked in his house. There's nothing stopping him pulling his curtains.

If you're sitting in the bay window of a 3rd or 4th floor flat (which for many people is where the dining table will be) you will have a good view of your neighbour's window and anyone in the window with no need to peer/ use a telescope/ crick your neck.

PrimalLass · 27/06/2014 19:49

Presumably though you were peering in salaciously through a telescope whilst dry humping your net curtains?

Actually, I think I was the one flashing the boys in the flat opposite Blush

PrimalLass · 27/06/2014 19:53

www.avrilpaton.co.uk/

Tenements.

PrimalLass · 27/06/2014 19:55

A fine example of how easily you can see in.

WIBU to call 101 on my nasty, naked neighbour?
PhaedraIsMyName · 27/06/2014 20:05

^^ which would be even clearer without the tree.

Pipbin · 27/06/2014 20:25

I'm just confused about how close they are. You say, op, that it's 4 car lengths away, yet you also say that cars couldn't park either side of the street and leave room for a car to drive down the street. Therefore the street is about 3 cars wide. Now cars are longer than they are wide so how can it be 4 car lengths?

Also, looking out of my window here my car is parked on my front garden/drive, the road is about another car length wide, then the house opposite has his car parked. So in total that's three car lengths. I can't even begin to see in his window.

Is the neighbour's flat actually much closer than you make it sound?

Redglitter · 27/06/2014 20:29

The tenement buildings sit right on the pavement so a building opposite you would be a pavement width, 2 road lanes and another pavement width away

Redglitter · 27/06/2014 20:30

That's the closest they could be. Some may have a wee bit garden or parking bays in front of them

Pumpkinpositive · 27/06/2014 20:36

You say, op, that it's 4 car lengths away, yet you also say that cars couldn't park either side of the street and leave room for a car to drive down the street.

No, I said it can be a squeeze (particularly for Hackneys). The Partick photo looked as though you could almost get two cars width on the street as well as the cars parked on either side, which don't even appear to be touching the pavement.

I could go out and walk from the front of my close door to the front of the close door opposite and tell you how many of my size 5 feet it would take. But it probably wouldn't be very scientific I'm afraid, and I can't be bothered. Grin

As for your neighbour, I take it he isn't living in a tenement?

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PhaedraIsMyName · 27/06/2014 20:37

Yes Redglitter many tenements are built direct on to the street with no garden or a very small front garden area. I'm getting a wee bit annoyed on OP's behalf by all these people suggesting she's some sort of peeping tom. Frankly a lot of them have no idea what they're talking about.

Redglitter · 27/06/2014 20:45

I've never lived in one but my gran did. I remember as a child being fascinated looking out at night. We always stayed in a detached house and being able to see in all these windows was amazing lol

well until we got dragged away and told we were being rude Smile

PrimalLass · 27/06/2014 21:18

Is that better Phaedra? No tree. My bay window in West Princess St had a tree. A cat used to climb up it and sunbathe on my windowsill when it wasn't fecking raining

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prettybird · 27/06/2014 21:33

I have a copy of the Avril Paton painting. I have lived in a tenement flat not in the West End (I've already mentioned I used to be able to see the guy opposite naked in his bedroom and sometimes he would walk through to his living room Shock) and many of my friends live in tenement flats (some in the West End). In fact one of them can, if she chooses, watch one of her neighbours have sex most days at 11am as he doesn't draw his curtains she thinks it must be an affair Wink. However, she doesn't choose to look. There is a difference between looking and seeing.

If the guy were standing right at the window scratching his balls then you might have a point Grin. But if, as the OP described, he is walking around his bedroom while he talks to his (fully clothed) girlfriend, it just sounds like it is someone who is comfortable in his skin.

I don't think it is worth calling 101.

If you are that bothered, you could post a note to him, leaving it in the close (presumably you know/can work out if he is 1, 2 or 3 up , left, right or middle, so you can address it to the inhabitant of......), asking him to be more considerate.

Pipbin · 27/06/2014 22:07

As for your neighbour, I take it he isn't living in a tenement?
No. Regular semi-detached.
I'm still confused though. How is a tenement different to a flat?

Redglitter · 27/06/2014 22:12

It's a block of flats just another n's me for them

Redglitter · 27/06/2014 22:13

ugh This phone. It's another name for them. They're tenement flats they're just a very specific style (as in the links)

Sallyingforth · 27/06/2014 22:26

If his intent is to expose himself for sexual purposes he does not have the right to walk around naked in his house.

That's one hell of an assumption on your part "Phaedra". The OP said he was "bollock naked chatting to girlfriend (clothed)" - which is entirely innocent behaviour. He has every right to walk around his house naked.

There is nothing whatever wrong with being naked in your own house. The unclothed state is perfectly natural and normal, and no-one should be offended by seeing someone naked under such a circumstance.

Anyone who thinks being nude is a sexual act needs to evaluate their their own morality, rather than criticise others.

PrimalLass · 27/06/2014 22:35

Tenement flats in Scotland are a particular style. To me, it means (mostly) sandstone, Victorian, large ceilings etc. I had a lovely tenement flat in Shandon in Edinburgh. Fabulous, but decorating a room was really like decorating one-and-a-half rooms because of the ceiling height.

To be fair, the neighbours definitely didn't expose themselves, but the man next door was near-deaf and his TV was on ridiculously loud. And teenagers threw fireworks at each other in the park out the back.

PhaedraIsMyName · 28/06/2014 00:20

Tenements are blocks of flats but not every block of flats is a tenement. I wouldn't describe a building built after 1900 as a tenement.

They will have much higher ceilings, even the smaller flats in traditional working class areas, than new build. Decorating is a nightmare, ours needs internal scaffolding because of the ceiling height.

GenuinelyMaryMacguire · 28/06/2014 03:17

Responsible behaviour includes not appearing naked in public. By allowing people to see his nakedness, OP's neighbour is behaving irresponsibly and anti-socially.
He needs to either put some clothes on, or put something over the window so people cant see.
OP needs to stop looking.

KarlWrenbury · 28/06/2014 03:34

I once had a blind flasher. Used to Masturbate when he heard his neighbour having guests.

I know

differentnameforthis · 28/06/2014 06:01

Close your curtains & stop spying on your neighbours!!

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