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WIBU to call 101 on my nasty, naked neighbour?

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Pumpkinpositive · 26/06/2014 23:54

Just that. Is it a police matter?

11:30 pm. Dark outside. Neighbour in flat directly opposite mine, lights on, no curtains in bedroom, wondering back and forward around bedroom bollock naked chatting to girlfriend (clothed).

This is a tenement flat with large, below-the-waist height windows. One cannot be oblivious to the potential of neighbours copping an eyeful.

I don't want to go all Plymouth Brethren on someone if it's just a one off. Should I wait for a repeat performance?

This person is hermetically sealed to his desktop pc 24/7 and I have long harboured suspicions about what he may be watching. The flat also has a history of previous tenants shagging against the selfsame bedroom window at 11am on a weekday morning.

Perfectly prepared to be told I am BU. Smile

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Gruntfuttock · 27/06/2014 13:52

OP also says "This person is hermetically sealed to his desktop pc 24/7 and I have long harboured suspicions about what he may be watching. " as well as calling him "nasty" in the title. The thought occurs to me that it might not be the OP's neighbour who is nasty.

prettybird · 27/06/2014 15:00

One assumes that there is a street in between. To be so affronted, you really have to be looking IN to the window.

To have sort of large windows you are describing it will be a street somewhat like this typical Glasgow tenement street. They are not that narrow Hmm.

You don't have to look. Hmm

WIBU to call 101 on my nasty, naked neighbour?
Pumpkinpositive · 27/06/2014 15:37

Picture you have just posted looks to be in the west end (Partick?) and is far wider than my street. As I said earlier, total distance between building is maybe 4 car lengths. Smile

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rodgette · 27/06/2014 15:41

I need more interesting neighbours, they are all about 80 around me :)

careeristbitchnigel · 27/06/2014 15:52

Police would only act if he was deliberately flashing you/members of the public in the street from his house. It would be a public order or exposure matter if he intended for you (a) to see them and (b) to be upset which would appear not to be the case.

prettybird · 27/06/2014 16:07

I can't see how you say it's wider - but obviously can't so so definitively. The flats in the forefround are just as you say: four car widths plus pavement - and no wee gardens (I deliberately chose a picture that wasn't of the "luxury" temements). I lived (and live) South Side and that is a typical distance of all the tenements round where I live - and also when I've been looking at tenements in the East End when I was thinking of buying one as an investment.

As a rough minimum, it would be two car widths plus two pavements. More likely, four car widths (allowing for parked cars either side) plus two pavements: a minimum of 10m. That's hardly "in your face". Yes, you can see he's naked if you choose to look . Who cares? Hmm

We used to laugh about it. So should you.

WorraLiberty · 27/06/2014 16:15

I think its bizarre that the human body can cause this much offence to people, when he wasn't doing anything offensive with it.

TheReluctantCountess · 27/06/2014 16:26

The distance between the buildings in that picture is surely no more than four cars.

Pumpkinpositive · 27/06/2014 16:32

I can't see how you say it's wider - but obviously can't so so definitively. The flats in the forefround are just as you say: four car widths plus pavement - and no wee gardens (I deliberately chose a picture that wasn't of the "luxury" temements). I lived (and live) South Side and that is a typical distance of all the tenements round where I live - and also when I've been looking at tenements in the East End when I was thinking of buying one as an investment.

Easily. I think I've been to the street in question. The street I live in and those parallel are notoriously tight, taxi drivers complain about trying to navigate the streets in those hackneys. Cars parked on either side would have to be fully parked on the pavement to produce that kind of width in the road. It almost - but not quite - looks as if you could get two car widths on that street even with the cars parked on either side. Where I live its a bit of a squeeze to get one car through when there is parking on either side.

I'd recommend East End for cheaper flats. More bang for your buck there, and a high student population in the areas nearer town.

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BalloonSlayer · 27/06/2014 16:37

Can't you just print out an ad for penis enlargement and put it through his letterbox?

hellskitty · 27/06/2014 16:40

'This person is hermetically sealed to his desktop pc 24/7 and I have long harboured suspicions about what he may be watching'

mumsnet?

BigfootFiles · 27/06/2014 16:43

I don't think anyone in 'Friends' ever called the police about Ugly Naked Guy.

Panga63 · 27/06/2014 16:46

I had a neighbour who used to iron in front of his bay window stark naked hope he didn't steamiron his todger
His body could really have done with an iron...

Some years ago a guy in my parents town was prosecuted for indecent exposure inside his flat overlooking a common. Don't think he was ironing though Hmm

Pumpkinpositive · 27/06/2014 16:50

Yes, you can see he's naked if you choose to look . Who cares?

I didn't choose to look. Hmm I walked into my living room hardly expecting to see a naked man in front of the window opposite. I live in a tenement with about 150 flats on either side of me and the same arrangement directly opposite. There are no "clear views over the city" or some such that could otherwise draw my attention. You walk in a room, the only view is the flats opposites with high windows. It is customary to look directly ahead when entering a room - I did, and there he was.

I wouldn't say I was prudish. I've walked about naked when living in one of the top floors of a high rise, the only way anyone from the ground would have seen me is with the aid of binoculars. Wouldn't dream of doing such a thing in the current living arrangement because I would inevitably end up flashing those opposite or in the street. Confused. I'm not as confident as those hear that this wouldn't be construed as exposure. Nor is at least one other Scottish based poster, who appears to have legal knowledge (correct me if wrong about that, Phaedra!)

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unrealhousewife · 27/06/2014 16:52

Is anyone else visualising a Glaswegian version of Rear Window, with OP in the wheelchair with the telescope and snatched conversations from the opposite room? I'm waiting for the murder. Such fun. James Stewart and Grace Kelly with square sausage and a kilt.

WorraLiberty · 27/06/2014 17:07

So what sort of measures are you going to take, to prevent you from seeing him, being as though you find nudity offensive?

A simple net curtain?

Blinds maybe?

Redglitter · 27/06/2014 17:09

It's not indecent exposure. He's walking around his home not realising he can be seen.

indecent exposure is the deliberate act of exposing yourself to the general public.

why don't you pop a note through his door saying he can be seen I bet that'll stop the problem straight away

PhaedraIsMyName · 27/06/2014 17:14

OP, I know exactly the type of street and layout you are describing. There are plenty of streets in Glasgow and Edinburgh with 4 or 5 storey tenements with very little space between the houses. If you look out the window you cannot avoid seeing anyone standing in their window.

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis · 27/06/2014 17:22

What's the mantra? His house, his rules?
Maybe if he hasn't waved it at you he hasn't realised that you are getting an eyeful. Wave at him, if he doesn't respond (or duck) you know he hasn't.

Pumpkinpositive · 27/06/2014 17:31

It's not indecent exposure. He's walking around his home not realising he can be seen

And my contention is that unless he's registered blind, I don't see how it's reasonable not to realise you can be seen from the flats opposite, given proximity, and size of windows. Hence why my immediate response was one of shock and discomfit. If I'd though, "oh his flat is miles away, the room is quite dark so he wouldn't realise anyone can him", I would have just shrugged.

I'm not easily shocked, and don't find the human body offensive at all. I lived abroad, in a hot country where they dropped their kegs at the drop of a hat so I'm acclimatised to expanses of flesh. This felt different.

why don't you pop a note through his door

Think I said before, these flats all have secure entry. Though that wouldn't stop some of my more er... temperamental neighbours if they catch a swatch. Confused

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Pumpkinpositive · 27/06/2014 17:35

OP, I know exactly the type of street and layout you are describing. There are plenty of streets in Glasgow and Edinburgh with 4 or 5 storey tenements with very little space between the houses. If you look out the window you cannot avoid seeing anyone standing in their window

Cheers. Grin. I canvassed opinion from a few friends (weegie) today just in case I am going pervy mad with the onset of early middle age, and they were pretty - how shall I put it - surprised someone had done that (they've visited to my flat).

Let us hope he was pished.

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PrimalLass · 27/06/2014 17:46

I lived in a wide street (West Princess Street) and could still see everything going on in the bay-window room opposite.

Pumpkinpositive · 27/06/2014 17:54

I lived in a wide street (West Princess Street) and could still see everything going on in the bay-window room opposite.

Presumably though you were peering in salaciously through a telescope whilst dry humping your net curtains?

Received wisdom on this thread suggests it's not possible to live in a Glasgow tenement and catch sight of your neighbours unless you are deliberately seeking to stalk/ogle/perv on them. Confused

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Redglitter · 27/06/2014 18:04

I assume you could get into the close in the morning when the service buzzers on or pop a note in the post. obviously you know his address Smile

Bottom line though is he's not committing any offence

Redglitter · 27/06/2014 18:05

Fingers crossed it's a one off which hopefully it has been if he's been living there a while

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