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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to just want a couple of weeks in peace with my newborn babies?

184 replies

moscowflyer · 07/06/2014 10:26

Sorry this is long. Have NC for this to hopefully avoid being outed by family members given posts under usual name! Plus am a bit embarrassed as have been ridiculously smug about this issue in previous posts- telling other posters to do as I have done (oh, am eating those words now…)

I thought I had it all sorted. I'm almost full-term with twins (first babies). DH and I live in a different country from my parents and his parents (3 different countries). I'm due to have a C-section in two days. We thought long and hard about the issue and decided months ago that we would have more than enough to do with two new babies and that we would ask both sets of grandparents to hold off on visiting us for a few weeks until we got ourselves sorted and under control.

We explained to everybody (nicely) AGES ago that things would be very different if we all lived in the same country but that things become much more complicated when long haul flights are involved. We explained that we won't have the time or the resources to be looking after them. We live in a two-bedroom apartment so technically we do have room but we have hired a night nanny for a couple of weeks to help us both through the nights with 2 babies so the 2nd bedroom is in fact the nursery. Plus I imagine this little house is going to be utterly crazy in terms of round-the-clock care and will be totally unsuitable for visitors for at least a few weeks after Monday.

We just got a phone call from FIL this morning announcing that MIL intends to get on a plane to visit us on the 14th of June. This will mean she will be arriving to stay with us the day after we get home from hospital. Poor DH has tried to negotiate an extra week and FIL has gone off to try to put her off until the 21st. We're waiting to see if she agrees. The message we have got is that if we don't let her come she will feel as if "her son and daughter in law don't want her".

This is going to cause quite a lot of upset with my side of the family. My own mother is quite miffed that SHE was asked to postpone her visit and has been going around telling everyone at home that "she was told not to come because Moscow said she'd only be a burden". Totally untrue, but my own mother is terrifically high-maintenance and attention-seeking. My poor DF will have to deal with a gigantic tantrum if she hears MIL is staying with us: and they may very well decide that it's open season and they're getting on a plane too…

I may also be in trouble because we deliberately didn't tell my parents when the C-section was scheduled, primarily because I didn't trust them not to pull a stunt and turn up for the birth. (They think I'm due next week.) DH insisted on telling his folks the date because he assured me that they wouldn't do anything as unreasonable as jumping on a plane at short notice (he's looking a little shamefaced this morning…)

Luckily DH and I are happy and solid and able to laugh (a tad hysterically) about it- we will deal with it as it comes. I'm choosing to see the funny side, and have been telling the (still inside me) babies that they are clearly rock stars given that they have groupies who are so desperate to see them they defy all barriers!

But I did say to DH just now- what IS it about our respective sets of parents? They're all desperate to come and "help" but they won't actually help at all when they're here (we know this very well- they will need more looking after than the goddam babies) and even if they make the odd cup of tea (unlikely) a week-long visit is hardly going to be of any real "help" in the general scheme of things. They don't seem to see that the "visits" are actually ALL ABOUT THEM rather than us.

AIBU to just want a couple of weeks to ourselves to get used to this massive life change, to get a rhythm and some sort of routine sorted, (and to get myself healed after a C-section) before we have to entertain visitors?

Any advice welcome- we probably can't change the situation but advice on damage limitation/coping would be great!

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 08/06/2014 15:50

Actually, some input from grandparents would be interesting here. Can anyone explain to me why it seems so important to get there at the very beginning?

I am not in anyway saying that YABU in your wishes. But- I wish I could explain how it felt to me - and other GPs may well be different.

I was at the birth of one of my DGC - amazing. Such a privilege. I wasn't at the others due to childcare duties. However I met them as soon as possible the next morning when I took their siblings in to meet them.

I cannot describe how I felt. And however unreasonable it may well be, I would have felt cheated and deeply upset to not meet them until they were a couple of weeks old. They didn't need to be more 'themselves' or aware or anything. They were definitely themselves from day 1. Obviously different circumstances for me as I live nearby not in a different country! It was just important to me and luckily not a problem for the parents.
Also, I worried about my DD and DDiL until their babies were safely here and I wanted to see them too.
It's not a feeling you are in control of. It's not just a whim. It's almost visceral. Just very, very important (to me).

Your circumstances are different, but be aware, however unreasonable, your DM may be hurt, so best to tell her that your DMiL has overstepped the mark and booked her flight!
And it's down to your DH to 'mark his territory' so to speak and make sure he does what he wants in regard to his children and not let his mother push him aside,

Nanny0gg · 08/06/2014 15:52

Please note - if anything had been a problem for the parents I would not have gone against their wishes!

pommedeterre · 08/06/2014 15:53

A quick hospital visit is reasonable though! My parents have been fine with that both times, when we got pils to do it second time round turned out they took mortal offense and used it over us quite a bit.

God knows what will happen with dc3!

ExCinnamon · 08/06/2014 17:07

OP, my dh comes from a culture where men are (still) quite hands off regarding children.

My mil still hasn't got used to the fact that dh likes to spend time with our children. He changed nappies, did nightime calming down and potty training, everything.
She commented quite a bit in the early days ("Poor cinnamon-dh, he has work and when he gets home he doesn't get time to relax"). I worked too btw.
When my ds was little and she came to visit after 2 weeks she tried to take him off my dh one night while he was cuddling him walking him around the living room listening to music. She was very much "Go to bed, you have to get up early to go to work. This is no job for a man."
I don't know what he said but she's never openly commented on him doing stuff for our dc again Grin

I'd prepare for her to "rush in" trying to muscle your dh out of the way. Don't let her tell your dh he's doing thing the wrong way or not good enough. My dh found the strength to really stand up to her, even though he normally doesn't.

ExCinnamon · 08/06/2014 17:11

And all the best for tomorrow! Enjoy your babies!

Dubjackeen · 08/06/2014 17:11

Just coming back in to wish you all the very best with the cs, and of course, with your two little new arrivals.
Glad to see that the thread has helped. I remember watching a programme about one of our main maternity hospitals, and one piece of advice the midwife gave to a group was...go home, close your door, and pretend to the rest of the world that you don't exist, just for a few weeks while you get settled with your new little family.
In summary, a very precious time no doubt, and reading some of the experiences here, any GPs insisting on visiting etc when they have been asked to hold off, just a little while, run the risk of creating huge resentment.
Take care of yourself. Flowers

MintyChops · 08/06/2014 17:14

Tomorrow!!!! So exciting, good luck, hope it goes well and enjoy them!

clam · 08/06/2014 17:24

If mil kicks off, trot out the old MN faithful, "I'm sorry you feel that way, but this is what we've decided."
"Yes, but you're pushing me out. I'm the grandmother...."
"I'm sorry you feel that way, but this is what we've decided."
"Yes, but...."
"I'm sorry you feel that way, but......"

moscowflyer · 08/06/2014 18:16

Thank you all so much for the kind wishes. I will go away now and take big deep breaths to steady myself for tomorrow....

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PickledPorcupine · 08/06/2014 18:44

Good luck for tomorrow! How exciting!!

ThaneOfScunthorpe · 08/06/2014 19:00

Good luck good luck! How amazing it will be looking at those two tiny faces for the first time. It will blow your mind.

TheCunnyFunt · 08/06/2014 19:57

Wishing you all the best for tomorrow Moscow and DH, I hope everything goes brilliantly. Enjoy your babies and don't worry about anyone else Thanks

LoonvanBoon · 08/06/2014 19:58

Oh good luck, moscow! Only just seen your thread but I'm another twin mum & you're absolutely not being unreasonable. My PIL visited within 24 hours of my babies being born, but we were still in hospital so we weren't all trying to fit into the house at once. They would have stayed in a hotel, too, if we'd needed them to.

They'd gone by the time I came home with our boys, & then DH & I had two lovely weeks together with our babies. There is no way I'd have had anyone staying at our home during that period - it was, as other posters have said, magical & very precious. And totally exhausting.

Hope it all goes well tomorrow - you've got some wonderful, exciting times in store.

Ifpigscouldfly · 11/06/2014 13:57

Hope it's all going ok !

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 13/06/2014 10:17

How are you doing? All well I hope Smile

leggingsarenottrousers · 20/06/2014 18:08

Hope you're going well OP.

Raskova · 20/06/2014 18:35

Hope everything went well and isn't too chaoticShock

ThanksThanksThanks

MintyChops · 20/06/2014 18:40

Hope it went well and you are safely home....

moscowflyer · 11/07/2014 11:03

Hello everyone- just wanted to give an update in case it's helpful for anyone.

Our gorgeous DTs were born on June 9th- two little girls. We are absolutely besotted with them.

MIL insisted on booking her flight for the 20th of June, despite our polite protests. This was really getting us down, as even with the later date we still didn't have room, the babies were still tiny, and we were still finding our feet. Eventually DH took a deep breath and phoned, two days before she was due to fly, and told her not to come. He was VERY firm, refused to budge, and told her to cancel her flight (it was a refundable ticket). I don't think she was very happy, but DH hasn't burdened me with the details of her initial reaction.

A couple of weeks later and, looking back, it was the absolute best decision ever. MIL is completely over her disappointment, and happy to wait until we are ready for visitors. We have had the space and time to get ourselves (kind of) figured out- at least we know which end is up now! We send video updates every day of the babies to both sets of grandparents, and we do a Skype call featuring the babies at least every two days. (iPhones and Whatsapp are essential tools here!) We are actually looking forward to the grandparents' visits now- after they all get their "proper" summer holidays over, that is!

Thank you all for the invaluable advice. If anyone finds herself in my position, I really hope this thread helps. xx

OP posts:
dobedobedo · 11/07/2014 11:10

Good for you! I think you really did the right thing. I had MIL round a couple of days after I had ds2 and it was a bloody nightmare and I really regret it. (baby blues, milk coming in, establishing feeding, recovering from the birth, sleep deprivation etc). I can't imagine how it would be for two babies!

MN thing or not, I'd advise anyone to not have visitors for the first two weeks!

Dubjackeen · 11/07/2014 11:12

Congrats on your little babies! Lovely update.
Delighted to hear everything worked out, and that you got the space to enjoy them, and find your feet.

McBear · 11/07/2014 12:02

Lovely update! Congratulations ThanksThanksThanks

Thanks for thinking of us.

OnIlkelyMoorBahtat · 11/07/2014 15:56

Oh, I only just found this thread today and having read through it all with baited breath am so pleased to find that there's a happy ending re. your MIL!

And even more importantly, congratulations on your two lovely daughters! Flowers Flowers Flowers

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 11/07/2014 16:30

Glad you sorted it out! Congratulations!

TheCunnyFunt · 11/07/2014 16:34

Thanks for the update OP, I have been wondering how it all worked out. I am so pleased your DH told her straight and you had your first few weeks without unwanted intrusions :)

Congratulations on your baby girls, you must be over the moon with them Thanks

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