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AIBU?

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to just want a couple of weeks in peace with my newborn babies?

184 replies

moscowflyer · 07/06/2014 10:26

Sorry this is long. Have NC for this to hopefully avoid being outed by family members given posts under usual name! Plus am a bit embarrassed as have been ridiculously smug about this issue in previous posts- telling other posters to do as I have done (oh, am eating those words now…)

I thought I had it all sorted. I'm almost full-term with twins (first babies). DH and I live in a different country from my parents and his parents (3 different countries). I'm due to have a C-section in two days. We thought long and hard about the issue and decided months ago that we would have more than enough to do with two new babies and that we would ask both sets of grandparents to hold off on visiting us for a few weeks until we got ourselves sorted and under control.

We explained to everybody (nicely) AGES ago that things would be very different if we all lived in the same country but that things become much more complicated when long haul flights are involved. We explained that we won't have the time or the resources to be looking after them. We live in a two-bedroom apartment so technically we do have room but we have hired a night nanny for a couple of weeks to help us both through the nights with 2 babies so the 2nd bedroom is in fact the nursery. Plus I imagine this little house is going to be utterly crazy in terms of round-the-clock care and will be totally unsuitable for visitors for at least a few weeks after Monday.

We just got a phone call from FIL this morning announcing that MIL intends to get on a plane to visit us on the 14th of June. This will mean she will be arriving to stay with us the day after we get home from hospital. Poor DH has tried to negotiate an extra week and FIL has gone off to try to put her off until the 21st. We're waiting to see if she agrees. The message we have got is that if we don't let her come she will feel as if "her son and daughter in law don't want her".

This is going to cause quite a lot of upset with my side of the family. My own mother is quite miffed that SHE was asked to postpone her visit and has been going around telling everyone at home that "she was told not to come because Moscow said she'd only be a burden". Totally untrue, but my own mother is terrifically high-maintenance and attention-seeking. My poor DF will have to deal with a gigantic tantrum if she hears MIL is staying with us: and they may very well decide that it's open season and they're getting on a plane too…

I may also be in trouble because we deliberately didn't tell my parents when the C-section was scheduled, primarily because I didn't trust them not to pull a stunt and turn up for the birth. (They think I'm due next week.) DH insisted on telling his folks the date because he assured me that they wouldn't do anything as unreasonable as jumping on a plane at short notice (he's looking a little shamefaced this morning…)

Luckily DH and I are happy and solid and able to laugh (a tad hysterically) about it- we will deal with it as it comes. I'm choosing to see the funny side, and have been telling the (still inside me) babies that they are clearly rock stars given that they have groupies who are so desperate to see them they defy all barriers!

But I did say to DH just now- what IS it about our respective sets of parents? They're all desperate to come and "help" but they won't actually help at all when they're here (we know this very well- they will need more looking after than the goddam babies) and even if they make the odd cup of tea (unlikely) a week-long visit is hardly going to be of any real "help" in the general scheme of things. They don't seem to see that the "visits" are actually ALL ABOUT THEM rather than us.

AIBU to just want a couple of weeks to ourselves to get used to this massive life change, to get a rhythm and some sort of routine sorted, (and to get myself healed after a C-section) before we have to entertain visitors?

Any advice welcome- we probably can't change the situation but advice on damage limitation/coping would be great!

OP posts:
MissLurkalot · 07/06/2014 12:36

Host is the key word here! Why would you want to host anything or anyone? You're going to be lost in your 2 beautiful babies. X

MrsWombat · 07/06/2014 12:38

You will have had major abdominal surgery.
You will have two tiny babies.
You have no where to put them up. (I assume you don't have a spare dining room that would fit a blow up bed for the two grandmas to share, and of course your doctor said you need to sleep in your own proper bed)
They are both high maintenance and won't lift a finger.

YANBU

The compromise of them staying in a hotel and visiting you on your own terms in a good one. "This is how they do it in the UK. Family and friends give the new parents some space for the first few weeks. We think it's a good idea."

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos · 07/06/2014 12:39

I haven't had twins, but I have had three c-sections. Although my recovery from the planned ones was quicker than from the emergency, do not underestimate how tired you will be, how ache-y, the dressings, the bleeding, the effect of a major op on your bowels.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 07/06/2014 12:44

I know you said it was an insult to have her stay in a hotel, but there is NOWHERE ELSE TO STAY. If you are up with the babies in the night you really can't be doing with worrying about waking up your MIL as well! Especially as she sounds like just the kind of person who will then moan on about how tired she is all day, while you're feeling half dead and recovering from major surgery too.

Shallishanti · 07/06/2014 12:45

haven't read the whole thread but YANBU
when our dts were born, my dm and df were staying at our house, BUT we had plenty of room for them and they came specifically to HELP- and they did- looking after ds1 while I was still pg, staying with him when I went into labour, and generally cooking, cleaning, washing ...DM was here for about a month altogether and was genuinely helpful. When she left, MIL came and it was more as people have said- she said she was going to help but actually did very little and I mostly had to go and redo what she had done anyway- but by that time I was more recovered anyway so not such a big deal.
All these people calling you mean, OP, I think have no idea what having twins is like, it it really full on plus you will be recovering from surgery.
Can't you suggest that DRs have recommended no guests at the house for 2 weeks, if MIL really won't go to a hotel.

Mothergothel1111 · 07/06/2014 12:46

I held of visitors for a week, it was the best thing we did. You can find your feet, establish breast feeding, recover from surgery, bond etc etc.

They are being selfish and you should stand up to them, otherwise they will continue to treat you with such little respect.

Randomeclectic · 07/06/2014 12:56

You need to tell them beforehand that they can only come if the are looking after you and the house - not the baby as you will be bonding and recovering. You will be totally exhausted and needing every bit of support.

They need to be aware that you cannot and won't be running around after them. You need to give all house/food/cleaning responsibility over to MIL and DH. When tea time comes around, don't get up and start making food. Instead wait it out, sit on your arse and cuddle your baby. If the make a cup of tea say ' two sugars for me please'

RazzleDazzleEm · 07/06/2014 13:02

First-time-parents over thinking and over worrying IMO

My experience no 1, first time parents didnt think and let GP run riot and ruin the birth and thereafter.
I am stil not speaking to PILS after 7 years.
They only gave stress and pressure and rudeness.

Second time parents - far wiser and clued up. All GP banned, it was bliss utter bliss and we could welcome no 2 without any other anxieties or worries and could concentrate on her and me ( ELC).

I totally understand their sheer excitement...I bet they are chomping at the bit, you hold all the cards though.

Explain fully that you understand their excitement but that you want this time alone, you cant explain any more but thats how you feel.

You hope they can understand, and you look forward to seeing them in a few weeks...

END OF,

ThaneOfScunthorpe · 07/06/2014 13:04

This happened to me! ILs turned up (uninvited) after DC2 was born (at two weeks old) and stayed for five weeks. It was utterly awful. I was so depressed, my body was in shock and was trying to deal with toddler DC1. All I wanted to do was hide in my room. ILs were disappointed that we were not more 'upbeat' about their visit. They also didn't lift a finger (despite me constantly asking them to do their own washing, make the odd meals etc). Our relationship has not yet recovered.

Hotel hotel hotel.

SoonToBeSix · 07/06/2014 13:28

You sound a bit spoilt tbh I don't think you will be looking after grandparents they will want to help and you need all the help offered with twins. Just ask them to stay in a hotel if the night nanny is in the room with the twins.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 07/06/2014 13:30

Soon I think the OP knows both sets enough, to know they wont be helpful.

Kelly1814 · 07/06/2014 13:32

I'm an ex pat living overseas and I couldn't agree more with you. We did nt tell anyone the date if my planned c section just in case they took it upon themselves to come! No one came to visit us for months and do you know what, we are both SO GLAD. You will never get that time back with your babies. And with a night nany it sounds like you have some support too.

We had a beautiful baby bubble just the three of us, and it was amazing.

fledermaus · 07/06/2014 13:33

Obviously Soon knows these people she's never met better than their actual relatives...

SoonToBeSix · 07/06/2014 13:33

Sorry missed your second post about the hotel , I would still offer that option though then it is her not wanting to come not the other way round.

SantanaLopez · 07/06/2014 13:34

YANBU at all, you poor thing!

SoonToBeSix · 07/06/2014 13:35

The op has never had a baby before how does she know they won't help, if it was a second child and basing it on previous experience then fair enough.

SantanaLopez · 07/06/2014 13:36

Do they sound as though they're going to help?!

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 07/06/2014 13:37

You dont need to have a baby to know the helpfulness of people or not.

YeGodsAndLittleFishes · 07/06/2014 13:41

What whois said. Anyone who can book flights when you have asked to be lwft damn well deserves to have to book in a hotel. You have one room for you and DH, one for night nurse and baby. Mil can sleep on the floor downstairs or go to a hotel or stop this nastiness. Sorry, but it is nasty and a complete invasion.
I'd also only send newborn photos to those who don't invade your privacy. I'd send them to your mum and let her pass them on to MIL a couple of days later.

YeGodsAndLittleFishes · 07/06/2014 13:43

Also, if she isn't capable of getting a taxi from a hotwl, she can stew. Offer one pick up from hotel on last day she is there.

YouTheCat · 07/06/2014 13:45

These threads always bring out the people who don't bother reading (or understanding) anything the OP has said.

OP, you do what is most convenient for you and your twins. For some people that means inviting the whole street along to the birth. For other people that means some downtime to get used to motherhood.

I had twins and it was a bloody shock. If you believe that your mil will not offer any help and will expect to be waited on, then put your foot down and say 'no'. It's you having major abdominal surgery and babies, not her.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 07/06/2014 13:48

I had a EMCS and if people wanted to stay over almost immediately, I would not be polite in my response.

MorningTimes · 07/06/2014 13:48

OP - are your twins being delivered at 36 or 36 weeks? (I know this is the norm. is the UK but not sure if it will be the same where you are).

If so, then there is a real chance that your babies may need to stay in hospital for a week or more, so you won't be at home for your MIL to visit anyway. My twins were born at 36 weeks & one of the had to stay in for 10 days, we all stayed at the hospital together. I met a few mums who made it to 37 but still had to stay in for a couple or weeks due to jaundice or feeding issues.

I think you should stay firm abd just say no. You will have enough to deal with as a family without pandering to an inconsiderate MIL.

PeachandRaspberry · 07/06/2014 13:49

YANBU. I can't believe that anyone thinks you are!

QuintessentiallyQS · 07/06/2014 13:58

Poor you. Just dont end up like I did, when our second child was born.

Mil had wanted to come and help, fair enough, then she cancelled. My sister said "ok, I will come", and she brought her 10 year old daughter. This was mostly to have somebody in the house to look after our then 3 year old.

So, when mil hear that sister and my niece were coming, she sulked, then changed her mind, and came.

So, MIL, my sister, and 10 year old girl. Then my husband had to house a colleague from India. Not to mention that husbands aunt had kindly arranged for friends 17 year old daugther to come as a summer au pair from Poland to help us.

So: Mil, Sister, Niece, colleague from India, summer au pair.

And me, husband, 3 year old and new born. 9 people.

With colleague from India already here, dh decided that it was sensible to work from home, so another colleague came daily from the office to work with dh and other colleague.

What does not kill you makes you stronger.

In the middle of this, I fell out with MIL, and colleague from India fell IN LOVE with my dh.