josie cunningham.

[CunningAtBothEnds]

I have read an article on the above where she states despite being 18 weeks pregnant and pleased up until now she will be having an abortion to "further her career" namely to qppear on big brother.

whether this is morally ok is one thing but AIBU to ask if an abortion for the reasons she gives is legal? i suppose its similar to someone saying its not the right time, just more brazen?

(I consider myself pro choice btw I just find her apparent callousness a bit tough to take)

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

So is everybody who has a late abortion despicable then or just her because she's talking about it

[sharonthewaspandthewineywall]

To an extent I agree with Oddaat but shows like big brother are equally to blame

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

The public eye is her chosen field of work, the newspapers her colleagues, her goal is to lead her life in the media spotlight and that's what she is doing.

Others choose to work in a hospital or post office or hair salon and you bet women in those fields have become pregnant, told their colleagues and customers/clients and then for whatever reason decided to have an abortion. I guarantee you that has happened.

This womans colleagues are the journos and rags and her customers are the public so more people get to know than if she worked in a bank.

[CerealMom]

'Quality' article aside. I'd be worried about a prostitute not practising safe sex (belt and braces). Pregnancy could be the least of your worries...

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

She can show her scan picture to who ever she wants if that person is interested enough to see it.

^She's chosen to abort why should that mean she shouldn't be open about being pregnant or aborting?

Why should it be secret or shameful if the person having the procedure is ok being open about it.

Or is it just because you find having a reminder of a ickle baby uncomfortable^

^^ this exactly.

[aermingers]

In all honesty, I think if you were an adult who had grown up with someone like that for a mother you would probably wish that you had been aborted.

Can you imagine the sort of shit life her children would need with her 'issues'? They'd probably end up being dragged through the care system, end up with their own mental health issues and be at a much higher risk of associated problems such as crime, jail, drug addiction.

Really, from my point of view if I was going to be given the choice in my next life of having a mother like this or being a late abortion I'd go for the abortion every time.

[mercibucket]

i am pro choice

i am not prochoice up to 24 weeks

this story is just generally disturbing and thought provoking

i dont like the openness of her decision and the 'career' reason. what does this tell me? i secretly think there should be an attitude of shame, regret or sadness around abortion? it is my issue not hers

i dont like the publicity and also fear she might be being exploited. i often think this about celebrity hungry people tbh. i think this is more about my attitude to the media than her. perhaps i am patronising her as well?

but it does also make me think about our abortion limits. i am not comfortable with abortions at later stages.

[TheDoctrineOfSnatch]

Odaat

Do you want the abortion limit to be reduced to below 18 weeks then?

[Horsemad]

What a trollope she is.

[differentnameforthis]

also let her get the shit kicked out of her

Suggests violence. So yes, I would say that you condone it.

[Horsemad]

Obviously I meant the 'sleb' in question.

[NachoAddict]

I am pro choice and think that not having this baby is for the best.

What I am judging is her choice to milk a very difficult and sensitive situation and try to achieve fane and fortune from it.

She has publicly celebrated the pregnancy, fair enough, to then go and announce she will be aborting at this late stage because she wants to go on tv has been done to generate more publicity. If not then why wouldn't she just get on with it. Why go to the tabloids and tell everyone all about it if not to create a media storm.

[basgetti]

So if someone has an abortion for reasons others don't approve of they are a cunt, an animal, a trollop and deserve to get the shit kicked out of them? And she is the vile one? Really?

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

Why shouldn't she be open about it if that's what she wants to do

[YoureBeingASillyBilly]

Apparently so basgetti

[ddubsgirl77]

upto 24 weeks tho is normally only for major medical reasons tho not just cos some z lister wants to be more famous if she doesnt want the child why not abort much earlier? why not just say she had miscarried? she knows she is going to be hated why would the hell anyone want that? why would anyone want thier kids brought up like that?

[gordyslovesheep]

'vile' people are no less worthy of compassion and understanding

she is obviously unwell

I refuse to sit in judgement on somebody as fucked up and fucked over as she appears

and if she wants a termination she should have one - her choice and one I would support 100%

[Horsemad]

I am pro choice and she is not the first to have an abortion because it doesn't fit in with her life plans. But, I don't know of any women who have publically declared their reasons in the media.

She's just an attention seeking lowlife imo. Vile excuse of a woman.

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

I'm pro choice, it's none of my business why she wants a abortion or if she should or shouldn't.

[NachoAddict]

mercibucket I agree completely with your post, you have wrote exactly what I was thinking but couldn't articulate.

I think although pro choice I also think abortion should be something not taken lightly, surely if your not using contraception then you are happy to get pregnant. If you are using contraception that fails and want go abort or any other unplanned situation then surely you would access an abortion before you get to 18 weeks.

[aermingers]

NachoAddict you said that really well. I agree having this baby would not be for the best and it would probably suffer greatly with her for a mother. She seems incapable and I can see her landing in deep/possibly criminal trouble because of lack of parenting skills. She doesn't appear to have the capacity to care for a baby.

But despite the fact that an abortion is probably the best for all concerned, making money out of it, using it for self promotion, using it to deliberatly shock and gloating about it - that's pretty damn sickening.

[Dawndonnaagain]

Odaat I don't give a flying fuck how bored you are with liberal viewpoints. These liberal viewpoints are the same ones that allow you to do the things this woman is doing. Unfortunately, asshats such as you do not allow for rehabilitation, help, understanding. It's fairly obvious the woman concerned is a) not terribly bright, b) has had little opportunity to learn the skills she needs, and c) is probably not very well.
My personal opinion is that I think it's unlikely she'll abort, but I feel desperately sorry for her. I have no idea why it was acceptable for my middle class woman in a middle class career to have an abortion to enable her to further her career, and not this. I guess because the middle class woman doesn't go to the press with it, but it's no different. Absolutely no different.