josie cunningham.

[CunningAtBothEnds]

I have read an article on the above where she states despite being 18 weeks pregnant and pleased up until now she will be having an abortion to "further her career" namely to qppear on big brother.

whether this is morally ok is one thing but AIBU to ask if an abortion for the reasons she gives is legal? i suppose its similar to someone saying its not the right time, just more brazen?

(I consider myself pro choice btw I just find her apparent callousness a bit tough to take)

" I'm not denying a person's right to have an abortion, absolutely not. I suppose I find this person and her reasons particularly repugnant. Though it's probably the best thing in her situation. "

Is that not specific enough for you, Doctrine

I have reported Odaat vile post

"no and im sorry she should have thought of this she also stated that no one wants glamour pics of a pregant woman then why get this far going on twitter etc posting pics she said she turned down the offer of support from the poss fathers yet is letting 1 pay for the abortion! this isnt like shes living on nothing she had support and offer of financial support"

She doesnt want a baby. End of. Lots of women with support and money have abortions. Are you saying lack of money and support are the only valid reasons for abortion.

Your post needs to be removed Odaat. Why not ask hq to do it on your behalf?

Ah, sorry Mercatel, I meant I wasn't specifically quoting you with the repugnant thing, many have made it clear that's what they find it without using the word, but I should have been clearer regarding your post.

I am pro choice. And I have a cousin born at 23+5.

She is not making a choice I would (that is to peruse a career in the limelight!) but many woman have an abortion because the timing is not right - career/ financial wise.

What I don't respect is her decision to post pictures of her scan and then announce to the world she is having an abortion to go on BB.

Odaat. YOUR post made me feel sick and teary. This woman clearly has issues, and is just fodder for the DM to vilify. Sad that so many posters have joined in. And pro-choice is pro-choice. Not with conditions that you approve of.

Have never heard of her in my life

"What I don't respect is her decision to post pictures of her scan and then announce to the world she is having an abortion to go on BB."

Totally agree that this is a poor decision!

Odaat she may be vile- that doesnt mean you arent vile when you propose someone should 'get the shit kicked out of them'

Your post was vile. Whether she is or not.

So what, she's made a decision and spoken to the media,still not exactly sure why that makes her a cunt and a animal

im sure many do for career reasons but they dont post and announce to the world they are pregnant and boosting the daddy is a famous footballer etc and then say oh im getting rid

boasting*

Ddubs- so the fact she was public about her pregnancy mean she shouldnt be able to have an abortion?

Horrible post Odaat!

You may think she is vile, but I rather think you are the vile one suggesting what you did in your post, I wont repeat is, as hopefully it will pulled, so don't want to repeat your vile comments here.

Just urgh at your attitude!

She can show her scan picture to who ever she wants if that person is interested enough to see it.

She's chosen to abort why should that mean she shouldn't be open about being pregnant or aborting?

Why should it be secret or shameful if the person having the procedure is ok being open about it.

Or is it just because you find having a reminder of a ickle baby uncomfortable

But to go from wanting a pregnancy to splashing her intention to terminate (complete with scan pictures) over the media doesn't suggest she's in a particularly healthy place mentally does it?

If she wants to go ahead then on the face of it she can. I'm concerned she's making decisions that will impact her mental health in the future and I think even as a pro-choicer we should recognise that social responsibility as well.

I completely 'get' the argument that the above just proves why she should terminate but I can't help thinking that kind of burden won't be good for her long term.

Idk, in reality I have no clue what her history is actually like. It's certainly making me question whether I truly believe in termination on demand though and what levels of interference there should be to ensure that a woman is helped as much as is possible to make the right choices for them.

No problem, Doctrine.

I'm actually glad to have my idea of pro choice challenged. It's made me think.

Bit much there, Odaat.