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AIBU?

josie cunningham.

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CunningAtBothEnds · 20/04/2014 12:56

I have read an article on the above where she states despite being 18 weeks pregnant and pleased up until now she will be having an abortion to "further her career" namely to qppear on big brother.

whether this is morally ok is one thing but AIBU to ask if an abortion for the reasons she gives is legal? i suppose its similar to someone saying its not the right time, just more brazen?

(I consider myself pro choice btw I just find her apparent callousness a bit tough to take)

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YoureBeingASillyBilly · 20/04/2014 15:15

Exactly gordy

Dubs maybe she didnt decide earlier she didnt want it. Maybe she only realised last week how much it would affect her career. Maybe she actually was very excited about the baby until someone had a word in her ear about whether it was the right thing for her. It doesnt matter if she's a z lister or kate middleton- if the facility is there up to 24 weeks then she can use it.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 20/04/2014 15:15

16-24 week abortions are quite unusual but they are legally no different to one at 8 weeks.

WilsonFrickett · 20/04/2014 15:17

It's a difficult story to read and has made me think about my own views. But I haven't changed them - autonomy means autonomy, not a little bit of autonomy, or autonomy as long as I agree with your reasons. It's her body, it's her choice and as a pp said, are we saying only women who run the bank of England are entitled to have abortions for career reasons?

That said, she seems to have a very chaotic life and I think maybe if the circumstances were different she'd make a different choice maybe. But it is her choice to make.

gordyslovesheep · 20/04/2014 15:17

watching her interviewed I stand by my post

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/video-josie-cunningham-plans-abortion-3434350

she seems quiet lost

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 20/04/2014 15:18

Could someone provide an exact list of who is and who isnt 'worthy' of an abortion please? I'm getting a bit confused. Z listers = no, what about r listers? Glamour models = no. What about ASOS underwear models?

OrganicG · 20/04/2014 15:19

Is that article (and others like it) really going to help her in her career? Though you never know nowadays... Doesn't she realise she's been exploited by the Daily Mail? They've set her up as some sort of hate figure.

I find her horrible, but she's vulnerable too and should have the abortion she wants. I doubt she'll be refused

scallopsrgreat · 20/04/2014 15:20

You're not pro-choice Odaat. HTH.

As someone mentioned up thread all the vitriol against this woman is exactly the DM and it's anti-woman agenda want. Clearly from this article women just cannot be trusted with their own bodily autonomy (let alone other important decisions).

The fact that it is blindingly obvious there are other issues going that this vulnerable woman is having to contend with is exactly what the DM want to deflect you from. It doesn't suit their agenda to make this woman likeable.

Men opt out of fatherhood for much less reasons. I'll wait with baited breath for the DM article on that.

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 15:20

If you are using contraception that fails and want go abort or any other unplanned situation then surely you would access an abortion before you get to 18 weeks.

And the majority of women in that situation do. Believe me, if you are carrying an unwanted pregnancy, you want it out of you pretty damn quickly!!

NeedsAsockamnesty · 20/04/2014 15:21

Do you know her then organic?

Topaz25 · 20/04/2014 15:21

Why shouldn't she be open about it if that's what she wants to do

Because it's insensitive to people who are struggling with infertility or people who agonised over the decision to have an abortion and didn't just see it as a publicity move. Also because now it's out there on the internet it will never go away and her kids will be able to read it one day and realise they could have had a sibling but she wanted to go on celebrity BB, which will be distressing for them.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 20/04/2014 15:23

Don't be so dramatic.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:23

She is awful, why the NHS gave her the boob job is disgusting, when there are sick people and children being denied treatment on the NHS.

OrganicG · 20/04/2014 15:23

Explain, Sockam?

basgetti · 20/04/2014 15:24

She was given a boob job because she has a condition that means she has no breast tissue.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:24

Yes she Can do what she wants, but don't boast and be proud of it!

Topaz25 · 20/04/2014 15:24

How is that dramatic? Don't you think her kids would be confused or distressed to see the pictures of her with a bump and the sonogram and read her saying she wanted an abortion to go on TV?

Dawndonnaagain · 20/04/2014 15:25

Topaz
Bollocks. My Mum had an abortion between my brother and my sister. Don't blame her one bit, she would have had four under four if she'd had it.
And that's from someone who hasn't spoken to said mother for years, for different reasons.

OrganicG · 20/04/2014 15:25

And the breast implants story doesn't have anything to do with this. It's just fodder from the DM.

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 15:25

Because it's insensitive to people who are struggling with infertility or people who agonised over the decision to have an abortion

No it isn't. She isn't responsible for anyone's feelings, whether they be pregnant, infertile or recently miscarried. She is allowed to do what she wants & shouldn't be held accountable for anyone else's feelings.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 20/04/2014 15:25

Really topaz? Ive taken the morning after pill 3 times in my life- i have no qualms whatsoever telling my dcs when they are a bit older that i tool it to prevent pregnancy. Do you really think they will be upset they didnt get those 3 (possible) siblings so we could carry on in our lives as they were?

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:25

No apparently she was depressed, that's why she got a boob job.

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tracypenisbeaker · 20/04/2014 15:26

It is not the fact that she is having an abortion that makes her a cunt, it is her disgusting attitude in general. I'm sitting here with a sleeping baby on my lap and reading someone say that they would terminate so they could have a pink Jeep makes my skin crawl. There is a difference between saying 'It is not the right time for me, I have ambition and want my existing children to have a better life' and 'I would trade my baby's life for five minutes of fame and possessions.' She has no tact. She cannot act like the DM is spinning lies as she keeps going to them to sell her stories like the horrible little shockmonger she is.

Yes, she has the choice to do what she wants with her body, but I also have the right to say my opinion, especially as she CHOOSES to be in thepublic domain.

basgetti · 20/04/2014 15:26

Yes she was depressed because she has no breast tissue.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:28

I agree Tracey, she has a choice not to go to tge media in the xfirst place. She wants publicity.

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