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To wonder why friends think you'd want to pay £500 each for a weekend to celebrate their birthday?

236 replies

Birthdayquery · 09/03/2014 19:00

NC for this.

I've been pondering this for a while now.

Most of my friends are the same age and over the next few months we'll all turn 40.

One friend has planned a weekend away for her birthday which will cost £500 per person (not clear if it's a girly weekend or couples as she is single).

This isn't a joint celebration thing as she is inviting a lot of people outside of our circle iykswim.

Is it only me that thinks a birthday with a zero on the end is really just another birthday and if we all expected each other to fork out a grand per couple to celebrate each one we'd all be skint Hmm

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slithytove · 09/03/2014 23:45

Can you post the email wording or would it out you?

slithytove · 09/03/2014 23:47

Bearing in mind zucker she hasn't arranged anything yet, just floated the idea and said she will handle bookings if people are interested.

And you can only know if they are interested through asking. And as OP said, this is affordable to them. A compromise yes, but to some it might be worth it as it would be fun.

HootHootTootToot · 09/03/2014 23:47

Sorry but it's another YABU from me. I would just decline the invite and not worry about it.

Birthdayquery · 09/03/2014 23:48

Out of our half of the invitees, for one reason or another, we all have similar disposable incomes and that is no secret between us.

I'm not going anyway so I'll wait and see what happens with everyone else.

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Birthdayquery · 09/03/2014 23:50

err, because if me and DH went it would double nun, it hasn't been touted as a female only weekend (but partners haven't been mentioned either)
and the majority have partners.

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OutragedFromLeeds · 09/03/2014 23:57

She hasn't asked you to shell out 1000 for her birthday (also loving how it's doubled since the start of the thread!!).

She's asked you if you would like to go away with her for the weekend. That is all. If you do want to go it will cost around 500. You won't mind spending that because you'll want to go. If you don't want to go, you will spend nothing.

It's so, so simple.

Birthdayquery · 09/03/2014 23:59

IMO there is a big difference between saying 'I've seen this place and quite fancy going, what do you think' to 'I want to go here for my special birthday and I want you to come and it will cost you this'

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Birthdayquery · 10/03/2014 00:02

ODFO with the doubling of costs, I quite clearly said it would cost £500 each and in my situation, as with the majority of those invited, there are 2 of us and this hasn't been touted as a female only weekend.

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mustbetimefortea · 10/03/2014 00:19

It strikes me as the friend being very self centred. If there are all of you celebrating the same landmark birthday and it isn't possible for one big party is she expecting to pay that much for everyone's party? You might do it for one but all the others? Hmm.

What if one of the later birthdays wants to do something similar but then can't because no one has any money left. Hardly fair for them.

It's very hard to have to say that you can't afford it.

slithytove · 10/03/2014 00:21

So if partners haven't been mentioned, I wouldn't assume the cost is £1000. They weren't on the invite after all.
I think you just want to say it is £1000 to make your friend look bad Grin

RonaldMcDonald · 10/03/2014 00:23

I paid for my guests to attend mine as it seemed like the polite thing to do

Most sent me a few hundred quid when we returned those who didn't, didn't

This proves I have to buy friendship, doesn't it?

slithytove · 10/03/2014 00:24

The only reason I would say I can't afford it in this instance, is on the understanding that your other friends would as well, thereby sending a bit of a message to the birthday girl.

Must say, I'm looking forward to the updates on how this one pans out and how she reacts.

Not saying for a second she hasn't perhaps been ignorant. Just that it's really not a big deal.

cobaltcow · 10/03/2014 00:25

Just say no if you don't want to go. Some might be happy to and this gives them an added incentive to do something fun with friends.

ILoveWooly · 10/03/2014 05:58

I think your friend is being quite ridiculous tbh... I could almost see the point if she had spoken to everyone first etc, had something more suitable/shared etc.

When DH turned 40 we lived at the other end of the country from most of our friends. So I spoke to them all in advance and told DH we were going for a quiet weekend away with the DC's but when we arrived at a youth hostel you have never seen a look of disappointment quite like his... until he walked in and realised I had hired out the entire place for the weekend (under £500 for us all) and that our friends were already there drinking wine and eating nibbles from the mammoth online shop I had delivered in time for them arriving. In total we spent a superb weekend with 10 of our closest friend and 16 children including our own. We ranged from aged 4mths to 50years and had a fab time. All in all including feeding everyone very well (breakfast/snacks/dinner and endless treats/wine etc) it cost me under £1200. The only cost to our friends were their own travel and lunch out on the Saturday.

nkf · 10/03/2014 06:45

I don't see that she has done anything so very wrong. The wording is off, very off. Thougtless I'd say rather than out of order. But I bet there will be people who find it very difficult. Who can't afford it but who don't have a reason not to go. I wish people could talk about money more comfortably.

Birthdayquery · 10/03/2014 07:02

I don't think it's wrong to assume partners are invited. The only reason it's even crossed my mind that they might not be is that she is single.

The invite just quotes the price per person.

The only time I would assume an invite is for females only is on a hen do.

It's not unreasonable to think a birthday celebration invite would include your partner Confused

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GarthsUncle · 10/03/2014 07:15

OP

This comes up all the time, albeit in different forms.There are two types of ways people ask for things in life. Let's call them the Askers and the Requesters. The Requesters do what you prefer - they float ideas, they get feedback, they are expecting a positive response before they actually Ask because they research questions in this way and never do Ask if they expect a negative response. Thus if they get a negative response that goes counter to their research, they are actually hurt by this.

The Askers don't do this. They start by Asking. But because they haven't sounded anyone out, they don't have pre-conceptions as to the answer and they are not surprised by a negative or a positive response.

When an Asker asks a Requester something, a Requester feels awkward because she assumes the Asker is expecting a positive response, as the Requester would do after her research. Meantime, the Asker is just looking for a response.

There are countless threads about this "my DSis has asked me to babysit but it's my DH's birthday, what should I do?" With half the respondents saying, "just say no, sorry, I can't that night" and the other half saying, "wow, how thoughtless, she should have checked first if you and DH had plans"

Requesters will often find Askers rude and Askers will probably find Requesters puzzling (when they don't come back quickly with a straight answer as they are trying to find a nice way of putting it or whatever). Both types are just different. But neither type wants to be mean. Smile

(There are of course self centred types who strop if you say no, but there are a lot fewer of them than there are Askers.

MaryWestmacott · 10/03/2014 07:18

Op, read outraged from Leeds message from 23:33, this is the issue here you are missing.

I've been invited on group holidays before I couldn't afford, and invited on ones I could afford, but didn't fancy going, I just said no.

But reading your comments again, it does seem that the thing you are most upset about, is not that she's suggested a group holiday, but a group holiday for her birthday, and just her birthday. Not one as a joint celebration for you all.

We are all reading this going "group holiday invite, accept or decline, no reason to be offended by an invite", but it's not the invite to go away - it's the fact she is arranging something big just for herself where she's going to be the centre of attention that seems to really get your rage up.

Do you like this person? Would you be happy to go away as a group if it wasn't for her birthday?

Wuxiapian · 10/03/2014 07:21

£500 for a birthday celebration?!

I'd tell her to bollox (or words to that effect)!

flipchart · 10/03/2014 07:37

I honestly don't see the problem.

A friend is having a 40th and planning something that's he wants. You are invited but think its a waste of money. That's fine.

You do what we do in our group. Those that can't or won't go say sorry mate, I'm not up for this one. I'll have a drink with you before you go/ get back. No issue at all.

Last year one friend had her 40th and a few went to Thailand. Great, I didn't have enough leave so didn't go. This year it's another mates 50th and 5 of us are going to Spain. Great.
Another friend was 40 in February and had a party at the Con club. Fine.

A complete non issue to moan about IMO.

flipchart · 10/03/2014 07:41

About your point about partners being invited. Our unwritten rule of thumb is parties at a local venue are a free for all, holidays abroad tend to be mates only. Again the 12 of us in the group are happy how things have evolved over the last 10 years or so.
Works for our gang!

Birthdayquery · 10/03/2014 07:57

mw that is exactly what has got my rage up. I do like her but I think it is pretty selfish to expect friends to pay £500 per person to do something that is exclusively for her birthday, in a pretty strange location chosen by her (none of the rest of us would have chosen to go there) when another 6 of us are reaching the same milestone at a similar times.

Group holidays don't have the emotional blackmail factor that a birthday invite does. Opting out is much easier if you just don't fancy it.

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flipchart · 10/03/2014 08:10

I still don't get your rage though. Yes it's her birthday and she wants to make a big deal of it. So what? Yes,it's a lot of money. However in our group most of us have a lot more money to spend on ourselves than we used to so if someone comes up with a fab idea to go to Thailand, Iceland , sprain or wherever for a party than that's great.

Not everyone can afford to to everyone so we always make sure we have a drinks night or meal that everyone can go to.

It really isn't an issue. It's a 'yes, I'm up for it' or ' sorry mate, count me out of this one'

OwlCapone · 10/03/2014 08:13

Got your rage up? Really? So out of proportion. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head saying they have to go.

Birthdayquery · 10/03/2014 08:17

Not sure what your family situation is flipchart if you are happy to go on 'mates' holidays at the drop of a hat but it isn't possible or desirable for most of us.

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