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To love Prince Charles

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PeriodFeatures · 02/03/2014 10:15

I think he is great. He is my favorite celebrity/public figure and I wish he was king of england.

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fideline · 02/03/2014 22:43

"meddling with public policy is one of the reasons I quite like him. Bloody fantastic that he is brave enough to stick his neck out and challenge environmental policy."

YY

fideline · 02/03/2014 22:49

"Just before the 2005 ceremony Charles Falconer, the Lord Chancellor of the time, took it upon himself to reject this settled position, declaring that it had been "too cautious." His justification for this (and the contrary views expressed by other legal experts) form part of the "legal advice" which has been suppressed"

I didn't know that. Interesting.

bodybooboo · 02/03/2014 22:57

nope don't fear an elected head of state!

to have a head of state by birth is as daft as North Korea actually.

ridiculous and Charles is a pompous arse.

caruthers · 03/03/2014 00:46

Are you suggesting that the monarchy we have is the same as the North Korean dictatorship?

Give your head a wobble.

The monarchy will be with us for a considerable time longer so just suck it in and breath.

fideline · 03/03/2014 00:51

Grin @ 'give your head a wobble'

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/03/2014 14:27

"Are you suggesting that the monarchy we have is the same as the North Korean dictatorship?"

Surely the crucial difference is that the monarch reigns but doesn't rule?

This is the crux of my objection to Charles: he appears to expect the privileges of his position while conveniently ignoring democratic principles which happen not to suit him

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/03/2014 14:39

Latest news: Apparently the Guardian have launched another appeal under the Freedom of Information Act for access to Charles' lobbying letters to ministers. For anyone unaware of the issue, here's an extract from the Independent's October 2012 report

The Attorney General Dominic Grieve has used a rare ministerial veto to block publication of the letters, overturning the decision made by three judges at a Freedom of Information tribunal

The letters, thirty of them, written between September 1st 2004 and April 1st 2005 represent, according to Mr Grieve, the Prince’s “most deeply held personal views and beliefs” and “are in many cases particularly frank.” Consequently, their publication could “damage … the Prince of Wales’ political neutrality” and “seriously undermine the Prince’s ability to fulfil his duties when he becomes King.”

The Sovereign cannot be seen to favour one political party above another, or to engage in political controversy,” Mr Grieve said, in a ten page document explaining his decision. “Any such perception would be seriously damaging to his role as future Monarch, because if he forfeits his position of political neutrality as heir to the throne, he cannot easily recover it when he is King

This is an exceptional case meriting use of the Ministerial veto to prevent disclosure and to safeguard the public interest.”

Some of us believe that Charles should have thought of the implications putting pen to paper, especially as we're constantly told how wise and well prepared for kingship he is. It hardly seems suitable for him to attempt to bend the law in his favour - or is this yet another example of him trying to avoid responsibility for his own actions??

mummymeister · 03/03/2014 15:01

I keep seeing this thread. I keep reading it and deciding that no I shouldn't respond but I just have to. I absolutely cannot stand him. he is an adulterer who is one day going to be the head of my church. forgiveness if you repent chaz and not otherwise. he comes out with all sorts of environmental crap. he is a bonkers old pensioner. I want nothing to do with him. I hope the Queen holds on until he is gone and then William changes the monarchy into something a bit more modern. he is a dinosaur and even seeing him makes my flesh crawl.

TillyTellTale · 03/03/2014 15:19

Yes. You are unreasonable.

He may look sweet, but inside, he's your standard over-opinionated man-in-a-pub.

TeamHank · 04/03/2014 23:00

Sorry only just seen caruthers comment - full of excuses about what?!

MaidOfStars · 05/03/2014 09:09

He's possibly the Royal I dislike the most. At least Philip can blame an ageing mind for his current nonsense.

For the reasons exexpat outlined towards the beginning, I am horrified at the thought of Charles on the throne. He is highly politicised. He wants to reject science in order to heal the world. He wants homeopathy funded by the NHS. He thinks coffee enemas can cure cancer.

Of course, he is absolutely free to hold these opinions; the problem is that he's not quiet about them. He is, in fact, incredibly vocal, and has stepped beyond campaigning to hectoring. I don't think that this is remotely appropriate a personality for a King of anywhere. Pax man summed it up perfectly (not verbatim): he believes his significance is in what he believes when it only resides in who he is.

MaidOfStars · 05/03/2014 09:10

Pax man = Paxman or Pac Man? You choose....

PeriodFeatures · 05/03/2014 19:46

puzzled I want to see the letters. I quite like that he is politically minded. However, this is only the case because he cares about the environment, young people etc.

I do get that he is a bit of a crackpot but anyone who'd been ghettoized in royalness would be a bit nuts.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/03/2014 19:57

I want to see the letters. I quite like that he is politically minded. However, this is only the case because he cares about the environment, young people etc.

That may well be true, PeriodFeatures, but as monarch he'd be required to show politically neutrality and the attorney general has already said that a public airing of the letters' contents could “damage … (his) political neutrality” and “seriously undermine (his) ability to fulfil his duties when he becomes King.”

My point really is that however well intentioned, he surely can't have it both ways - either he campaigns openly and takes responsibility for any errors of judgement or he keeps schtum

kim147 · 05/03/2014 20:01

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PeriodFeatures · 05/03/2014 20:06

What like not do Fracking or something? Great!!

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PeriodFeatures · 05/03/2014 20:08

puzzled I'd suggest he campaigns openly, but can see the consequences of that may be a bit problematic!

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PeriodFeatures · 05/03/2014 20:08

..He might get his benefits sanctioned Grin

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PeriodFeatures · 05/03/2014 20:09

kim democracy is a fallacy in this country. Until we can vote for policies not people, we won't have a true democracy.

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ForalltheSaints · 05/03/2014 20:24

He will be our King at some point and I hope he is a good Head of State. I'm not that hopeful though and would prefer William to be the next King, but that is not going to happen.

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GuineaPigGaiters · 05/03/2014 20:31

Dd and I met him last year, thoroughly decent guy from the little I could glean, seemed genuinely interested in what the group I was with had to say and some sound opinions too.
I like his environmental bent, he was into climate change issues and conservation and the organic movement long before they became popular in the UK.
I think its high time Queenie handed over!

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