To love Prince Charles

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I think he is great. He is my favorite celebrity/public figure and I wish he was king of england.

^"I didn't say they weren't, fideline - I said we can't know if they actually ARE"

What a very bizarre remark^

Why? Given the background to the whole issue, don't you think that some kind of certainty would have been useful? Or do you believe that Charles should have no accountability to his future subjects at all?

Anyway, whatever juicy titbits are being withheld under the 30 year rule......

really, who cares?

Charles and Cam aren't on my daily radar and I might be dead by then.

I don't think the public cares about minute constitutional complexities any more, ditto the theological ones.

I suspect the 'sealed report' comments on the constitutional fact that Camilla will automatically become Queen Consort on Prince Charles' accession to the throne and has therefore been suppressed for PR reasons. Fair enough, the poor woman once pelted with bread rolls in a supermarket for no intelligent reason. They are being cautious re. public opinion.

YABU, OP. Why on earth would any rational human being find anything admirable in this indulged, intellectually- and emotionally-constipated creature who has spent a wasted life of luxury in waiting for his mother's death while trying to meddle with public policy and who owes his privilege to an anachronistic system of privilege?

Honestly, every time there's some hanging out of CBEs or OBES or Buck House garden party handing out of royal nods to carers and charity volunteers, I want to roar 'Sod this, who should our society really be celebrating as valuable -- the sour looking woman in the crown or someone who's spent thirty years doing respite care for people who are quadriplegic and deaf blind?'

Yes I like him and I also think Camilla would be very good fun. I love they way they are nearly always in stitches laughing.

I am not crazy about the Royals, I did see William once in a pub with a large gang of Etoinians. He was one of the far nicer ones.

I cringe when I see Prince Andrew and I thought it was glorious when the Palace secuirty Took him down mistaking him for an intruder ( yeah yeah) and am not keen on P ann either.

I think people have warmed to Camilla.

I doubt there'll be much objection when Charles ascends to thd throne with Camilla as queen.

Good luck to them both.

Youstayclassy

Slight tangent here, is San Diego classy! My brother had an opportunity to go and live there a long time ago, he didn't go and his life took a strange turn here. I read about it at the time and it was supposed to be very nice, I am going to go one day!

Adrian Mole writer has done a book about camilla and charles on benefits in council house, friend read it and said its v funny, I have it, not got round to it yet.

Camilla and her fags!

'Much objection' as in revolution? What can you do anyway? They do what they want. It's not about warming to Camilla, I don't think.

You make a good point about the "meddling," Burren

Come to think of it, wasn't there a freedom of information request on what issues he was writing to ministers about? And didn't he have that refused too? If so, it seems once again that this is a person who expects to have his cake and eat it ...

Slight tangent here, is San Diego classy!

There are a few nice bits but most of it's been eaten by convention hotels, making downtown feel a bit sterile. Great weather, though!!

Isn't the question about legality of his marriage to Camilla all to do with whether he can legally be king when married to a divorcee? Something like that.

Yes zoo, it's a constitutional point , rather than being strictly about the 'validity' of the marriage per se.

I doubt that they could have gone ahead if the expert consensus was against them. There may have been one or two dissenters of course..

agree Burren and Kim

those of you who like and support the royals then you should offer to pay for them.

personally I would like to opt out.

meddling with public policy is one of the reasons I quite like him. Bloody fantastic that he is brave enough to stick his neck out and challenge environmental policy.

Also for those anti-royal (I am not particularly pro-royal) consider what an elected head of state might be like? Who would this be, how would they come to their position? Scary.

YANBU.

I want the queen to rule a while yet though.

Why don't you look across the Irish Sea to the Republic of Ireland, where we have an elected head of state, directly elected by the population every seven years. It's not scary at all, it's called democracy

i hate the cold do tell us more!! Why is he so awful?

janine that is fine if you have any faith in the democratic process in this country. Unfortunately I don't. 15 years ago I would have agreed with you.

That's why you need PR-STV! Forget this first past the post nonsense.

Isn't the question about legality of his marriage to Camilla all to do with whether he can legally be king when married to a divorcee?

Not quite - much of the argument concerned whether a civil marriage was valid at all for royalty, making it a purely legal point rather than a constitutional one. Several previous statutes said that royals couldn't make such a marriage, a position which was accepted right up to the time of Tony Blair being PM

Just before the 2005 ceremony Charles Falconer, the Lord Chancellor of the time, took it upon himself to reject this settled position, declaring that it had been "too cautious." His justification for this (and the contrary views expressed by other legal experts) form part of the "legal advice" which has been suppressed

Some regard this as an obvious establishment stitch-up for Charles' benefit, but like I said it's hard to know since the public were expected to pay for the legal advice but aren't allowed to know what was said

Bloody fantastic that he is brave enough to stick his neck out and challenge environmental policy

Er yes, and of course like everyone else he's entitled to his views - but if he's going to lobby ministers, shouldn't the public be allowed to know what he's lobbying about? I ask because these letters have been put under lock and key too, exempted from the usual freedom of information requirements