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AIBU?

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To have a chairty collection instead of presents at my child's birthday parties?

436 replies

unlucky83 · 23/02/2014 17:48

My DCs don't get a birthday present - they get a party instead. They have a great party ...creates memories... and I don't have to buy them something just because it is their birthday (they are both just after Christmas anyway)... I think a great experience...only one problem - presents!
When DD1 had her first big party I hadn't even thought about it - then after I watched her open 20+ presents and honestly it made me feel a bit sick - it was just too much and although the presents were lovely they weren't really needed...we have too much 'stuff' anyway (clutter everywhere) and whatever someone buys if it ends up in a charity shop it is never going to make what was paid for it...
I then decided that if she was going to have a big (whole class) party that she wasn't going to have presents as well but in case people felt they should contribute something we would have a charity collection ...
And we stuck to that until she started having just a few friends - except when we had a shared party (would be awkward for other child)...and it worked well
Now DD2 had a couple of shared parties when little but for the last three years has had big parties on her own (she now has girl only parties - unfortunately most of her class are girls so still not small!).
She has agreed to the arrangement, she wants the party instead of a present and gets to chose the charity to support - I give her options (small, localish ones). In fact last year she had great fun because we collected for the children's ward at the local hospital and they didn't want cash (too much hassle accessing it apparently) - so she got to go mad in Mothercare choosing baby toys!
We put a tin out and say on the invites 'no presents please, there will be a charity collection' - if people feel they want to contribute fine, if not no problems and even if they put money in the card I have no idea who contributes or doesn't or how much they put in...
Another parent always ignores the no present rule and from a couple of things she has said she obviously thinks it is wrong....
(other parents do understand -in fact some have 'copied' my idea)
So am I being unreasonable?
Have I missed something that might offend someone?

OP posts:
Silvercatowner · 23/02/2014 18:49

Childhood is all about having lots of crap and too much stuff. Charitable donations sound soulless and joyless.

Cringechilli · 23/02/2014 18:52

I'm split on this. I know how it is when they get 15 presents from a big party, it's obscene really. That said, my dc have received some really nice stuff that I wouldn't otherwise have thought of and we have kept a lot of it for years. I sometimes put the presents in a cupboard and they can get things out gradually up to a year later. My dd had great fun with a card making kit that had been in the cupboard 7 months as we were overwhelmed on her birthday.

I do not really understand the issue with letting dc choose half the toys to keep and donating half to charity or hospital. Not really sure how buying toys in mothercare is different?

I think you need to make sure your dc doesn't feel short changed. Even when my dc were only 3 or 4 they had an idea of what their friends wanted. Now if they get a party invite, they say I want to buy x this particular thing and I do as long as it doesn't cost too much and is appropriate! Maybe some of your dc friends are like this ?

Kleinzeit · 23/02/2014 18:52

Mrsscoob I do think its a bit rude if you have clearly said "no presents" for someone to turn up with one anyway

Oh goodie – then it’s a rudeness war! Because technically, if you’re being strict and old-fashioned, I think you are not supposed to insist on what presents people bring (including that it can only be a charity donation), or dictate whether they bring any present at all. No-one is obliged to bring a present and if they do it’s rude to reject their generosity. In theory anyway Smile

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 23/02/2014 18:53

My mum decided that, after 8 years old, we were 'too old' for parties, and we wouldn't get any more. Not even a couple of friends and some cake. I resented this a lot, and felt I missed out.

unlucky83 · 23/02/2014 18:55

This is very interesting - as I really didn't know what the problem was...
I thought just 'no gifts please' might make people feel guilty about coming empty handed... and parents don't need to donate - the option is there but it is an option...
Part of the problem is that they get a lot for Christmas - (long story but for DD1's first Christmas -at 10 months - she only got two presents - so for her next Christmas I over compensated and now have set the bar high - which I need to keep up until the youngest doesn't believe in Santa...) so we have lots of stuff that is not played with yet...
And smaller parties - yes - DD1 now has smaller parties and gets presents - just DD2 is still young enough to change who she plays with every other week - so you get to the stage where it would be all the girls except 2 or something ...which would then be mean too!
As for my birthdays and Christmas - I'm not really bothered - most of my family don't celebrate birthdays as adults - I get a card and a cheque from my parents, a card from my sister - doubt my brothers even know the date of my birthday - I don't get them a card - they don't get me one! (And we don't do Christmas presents either!)

OP posts:
mrsjay · 23/02/2014 18:56

gift giving for children especially is a 2 way thing the invited hcild wants to give a present the birthday child like to recieve a gift from their friends I think your stance is your stance not everybody will agree your dds might come on here one day and say my mother was so mean she didnt ever let my friends give us presents IMO i would leave the donations for adult parties and let your children have nice parties and have nice presents from their friends, I think you are forcing your dds to agre with your views as well as ALL of the birthday children, although if you are uber rich and this is the done thing where you live then go ahead and do it

mrsjay · 23/02/2014 18:57

maybe next christmas stop buying them so many gifts and let them have a birthday party with presents maybe work out better for them

whatever5 · 23/02/2014 18:57

I've never heard of anyone doing this and I think it's a bit mean to stop your child having any presents at all for their birthday. They may go a long with it but they don't really have much choice do they? It reminds me a bit of the film "Mommie Dearest".

notanotherusername1 · 23/02/2014 18:59

My dc only had whole class parties once each and everyone brought presents and yes it was far to OTT. But I would never ever not buy them presents ourselves. Would not think of giving them a choice between present or party.

I do agree that parties do result in to many presents but maybe just request no presents or drop the OTT parties. It's far nicer as they get older not to have all that anyway.

It should all be a fun and happy time anyway.

bodybooboo · 23/02/2014 18:59

do you get birthday presents op? or are you just this giving of other people's things.

I love seeing my kids faces opening gifts especially now they are teens and the girls really try to make things special do lots of framed photos of special days etc.

yep I would feel sorry for your dd and be the parent buying her a present as it's her birthday not yours.

go donate your own gifts.

whatever5 · 23/02/2014 19:01

I get a card and a cheque from my parents, a card from my sister - doubt my brothers even know the date of my birthday - I don't get them a card - they don't get me one! (And we don't do Christmas presents either!)

I hope that you donate the money from your parents for your birthday to charity?!

jamtoast12 · 23/02/2014 19:01

I think yabu. If I got an invite like this I'd think you were being very pretentious and it would really put me off going full stop. I'd feel very sorry for the child. if I did go I would buy a present for sure. I don't think any child would think of that themselves so would instantly think its was a parents idea.

mrsjay · 23/02/2014 19:01

my dds do and did that for friends birthdats body it is really lovely they love doing it for each other dd had a recent birthday and got a great one from her friend with daft silly pictures in the frame Smile

MmeMorrible · 23/02/2014 19:02

I don't disagree with the idea of asking parents not to bring presents to the party but I've never seen this work in practice. I also think that children like to buy presents for their friends and that the act of buying a gift is a nice way to encourage children to be less selfish.

One of DDs friends used to have the same party but no presents rule as the OP. She also didn't get presents for her birthday and one present at Christmas. She told DD one year that she wasn't allowed toys and her Christmas present was a new wardrobe.

Anyway, the no presents thing never really worked, some people brought presents anyway, all the DCs asked too many questions and lots of parents were offended when given charity envelopes and asked for a donation to a religious charity at the party.

mrsjay · 23/02/2014 19:02

birthdays*

jamtoast12 · 23/02/2014 19:02

I wander if this thread is actually for real as its so mean!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 23/02/2014 19:03

The OP said she gets a cheque from her parents, nothing from her brothers, and doesn't make much of a 'thing' of her birthday, bodybooboo.

The more I think about this, the more it is making me sad. I bet my mum would, if asked, have said I was entirely happy with the 'no parties after age 8' rule, but I so wasn't, and I would hate other children to have those feelings of sadness - that I am still feeling at age 49.

SeaSickSal · 23/02/2014 19:03

OPs DD is going to end up on the Stately Homes thread....

mrsjay · 23/02/2014 19:04

dunno Jamtoast sounds plausible but I dont understand why the OP was feeling sick seeing all these present at one party but thinks it is ok to give her dds loads of christmas parcels

monkeynuts123 · 23/02/2014 19:04

It just makes you come off a bit up your own arse to be frank. If you want to donate to charity then go ahead but let your kids have their birthday presents.

trashcanjunkie · 23/02/2014 19:04

Ok I'll have a go.... Presents on my birthday was one of the highlights of the year. I loved it as a little child, I remember looking forward to it and remembering it afterwards, and the presents were a big part of it. The sheer joy of seeing the pile of things wrapped up just for me, with brightly coloured paper and a surprise inside was so special. I feel that to decide because you felt sick, that dd shouldn't get the same joy is sad.

As a parent I sometimes have inwardly groaned at certain presents - I have three boys aged 17 and twins who're nine (whose birthday is just after Christmas) so we've had our fair share of plastic crap and guns, and my flat is small, but if they are a shit toy, then they won't get played with, and I've given them away to better places after the boys tired of them - saying that, some horrible little toys have been huge favourites, and given hours of fun, so who am I to say. At times I've steered people who wanted to buy stuff, in a certain direction eg Lego mini figures or suchlike, or even sweeties in some cases. And a party is one way of creating nice memories, but without the presents, you are setting it up as different, and yes, as others have said, worthy - in a smug way. If you really wanted to not have gifts, there are a billion other ways to have a special day without drawing massive attention to the fact she can't have gifts.

To try and sum up my garbled thoughts - it feels as though you are robbing your dc of a traditional and joyful rite of passage. There's a reason it's been done for years, and is tradition, and that's because it's bloody lovely to get presses on your birthday and at your birthday party.

Chiefly, that the sacrifice you're making, is on dds behalf, not yours, and you will actually benefit from this in your eyes, by not having to feel the feelings, deal with unwanted stuff, and get the pleasure from being worthy.

Phew, I hope that makes sense.

kennyp · 23/02/2014 19:04

i'd like that idea for a wedding present thing - i.e. no wedding presents but donate to a charity instead (although i'm quite picky on which charities i support).

but i really wouldn't do that for my child. having said that, i went to a wedding once when the cheesy arse poem said "no presents just money" so i gave them a nice book and wrote in it so that they couldn't take it back.

but if your kids are really truly okay with it then it's their choice, surely. and not yours.

Caitlin17 · 23/02/2014 19:07

I don't see a problem about saying no need to bring presents to the party but if someone brings something small nonetheless it is very ungracious to throw a strop about it.

The no presents at all because you're getting a party sounds mean and sanctimonious.

mrsjay · 23/02/2014 19:08

and I think it can make little children feel guilty I bet most children would feel sad that they didnt get any presents at their party but embarassed to feel that way because mummy wants the presents to go to charity If that makes sense,

trashcanjunkie · 23/02/2014 19:11

winterlace I don't buy tons of crap - I got mine ipad minis for Christmas and a few stocking fillers plus new undies and pjs. They were absolutely bloody delighted. For their birthday I got them one present each (one wanted a premier league football and the other a halo Lego set) and then we went shopping in the city and they choose stuff to a budget. They were chuffed to pieces and I don't have a house full of crap.