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Original poster

AIBU to pay the live in nanny/au pair this salary.

372 replies

SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 17:56

£300 a week for 7:30AM-5PM 5 times a week sometimes it may be a bit more. Then give her some money so she can treat herself. She will stay in our house and she get the chance to go to college/university. We will provide her with food, water a shower and internet. She will be treated like a member of the family and will be able to access the family car.

OP posts:
gordyslovesheep · 07/02/2014 17:58

when can she go to college or university working full time?

WorraLiberty · 07/02/2014 18:00

What gordy said?

Ifcatshadthumbs · 07/02/2014 18:00

Is she a nanny or an au pair? I thought the two were very different things?

LaurieFairyCake · 07/02/2014 18:00

How can she go to college when she's working 50 hours a week? Confused

I saw your other thread and I think the average of the salaries people talked about was higher than what you're offering.

MrsNoodleHead · 07/02/2014 18:01

Gross or net?

circlebeginning · 07/02/2014 18:05

This rate of pay is taxable for an au pair or nanny. Is the £300 gross (including tax) or net (post tax).
Nannies and au pairs can no longer be self-employed so you have to register as an employer.

lilyaldrin · 07/02/2014 18:07

Why do you need two threads?

If it's £300 gross, that's just below minimum wage - I think it would need to be £310 a week. If the hours are longer then you need to pay for them.

There is an accommodation offset though - you can allow about £35 a week for accommodation to make her wage up to minimum wage.

She is a nanny, not an au pair by the way - au pairs do about 25 hours a week babysitting/cleaning in exchange for pocket money and must have time off to study English.

Original poster
SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 18:08

Perhaps she could got to night or afternoon lectures.

OP posts:
lilyaldrin · 07/02/2014 18:10

Going to college is irrelevant to her salary.

You have to pay minimum wage, register as an employer, operate PAYE (deducting her tax and NI correctly) and provide a contract. Other than that you can offer your nanny any salary you like.

lilyaldrin · 07/02/2014 18:10

Oh, and 5.6 weeks paid holidays a year of course.

Onesleeptillwembley · 07/02/2014 18:10

Do you not know the difference between a nanny and au pair?

LaurieFairyCake · 07/02/2014 18:12

I wouldn't have thought many people are up to a lecture after 5 at night once they'd done a 10 hour day of looking after small children.

If you pay the fees (£3k a year for uni courses for the cheapest ones) maybe you can offer it as a perk?

But you'll still have to offer minimum wage though.

morethanpotatoprints · 07/02/2014 18:12

You don't want much do you OP?
even I know nannies charge much more than this.
You need to pay her properly, or try an au pair.
if this fails you could look after your dc yourself.
Would you not prefer somebody who attracted a good wage looking after your dc?

WipsGlitter · 07/02/2014 18:14

The fact you don't know the difference between a nanny and an au pair concerns me. A nanny is a trained professional with sole care of your child/ren. An au pair is an occasional carer/babysitter.

I'm guessing you don't like the figures on the other thread so have started another one!

Onesleeptillwembley · 07/02/2014 18:18

So sad when people don't care enough to get proper care for their children.
This isn't 'sleep on the couch (but the house is supposedly in a good area) do all the housework 6 days a week for £20' woman is it?

WorraLiberty · 07/02/2014 18:20

If she's working from 7:30AM-5PM 5 times a week

How can she go to afternoon lectures? Confused

Outnumbered3To1 · 07/02/2014 18:22

Erm...are you also expecting to pay this £300 for the first week when your away and leaving your DC in her sole care for 7 days? Hmm Nothing like chucking her in at the deep end. Any luck she will be gone by the first week so you won't need to worry about uni for her.

swooosh · 07/02/2014 18:25

I know the last thing I'd want to do after working those hours is then go to Uni for the evening.

I think you need a SERIOUS rethink. It's a nanny you are after not an au pair.

Original poster
SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 18:49

She has the qualifications to do both of the jobs I listed. I am going back to work so wont get much time with the DC and DH works so can not look after the DC full time. To Onesleeptillwembley it no. that I do not want to look after DC it just I want to return back to work and i do not want to be a SAHM for much longer.

OP posts:
Laquitar · 07/02/2014 18:54

Please tell me the 'water' in your op was a typo.
You didn't mean you are offering water, did you?

DustyBaubles · 07/02/2014 18:55

It's very simple. You won't get a nanny for that sort of money.

You are unlikely to get an au pair who'd take those hours.

You really need to research this properly or you are going to be leaving your child in the care of someone as clueless as you are.

Laquitar · 07/02/2014 19:00

It is low but not extremely low mind you.
I thought the average for live in was about 350pw? You mind find someone if you offer a perk. (no water. another perk)

Laquitar · 07/02/2014 19:00

Might

Scholes34 · 07/02/2014 19:03

Perhaps you could work nights and the nanny/au pair would go to lectures in the day time?

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 07/02/2014 19:05

OP you don't seem to be putting the right sort of thought into finding appropriate childcare other than 'can she start now and do all the hours'

these aren't guinea pigs being cared for by 13 year old next door neighbour. these are children and an adult needing a living wage. she isn't there to help you out. she is there to make a living, pay her bills, save some money for her future and get an education. do not make the mistake of ignoring her reasons for being there.