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AIBU to pay the live in nanny/au pair this salary.

372 replies

SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 17:56

£300 a week for 7:30AM-5PM 5 times a week sometimes it may be a bit more. Then give her some money so she can treat herself. She will stay in our house and she get the chance to go to college/university. We will provide her with food, water a shower and internet. She will be treated like a member of the family and will be able to access the family car.

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Dinnaeknowshitfromclay · 07/02/2014 19:05

7.30am to five PM five days a week would be unsustainable after while I imagine. I don't think you would keep someone long if that didn't change.

splasheeny · 07/02/2014 19:06

That's a nanny, not an au pair. If you want an au pair you will have to reduce the hours significantly. If you want a decent nanny you will need to significantly increase the pay.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

lilyaldrin · 07/02/2014 19:06

Average gross salary for a live-in nanny outside London is just under £400 a week. In London and the SE it's about £425-£500 gross a week.

I don't think £310ish is a terrible live-in wage for a nanny in her first job tbh.

SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 19:07

We have already employed her we are currently negotiating her wages if she is good I will increase her wage.This is just her starting wage you have to start from the bottom and build your way up. When I wrote water it was not a typo some of my friends expect their live in nanny to pay for water.

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HenriettaPie · 07/02/2014 19:07

You will provide her with WATER?? Gosh you are so kind op

LayMeDown · 07/02/2014 19:08

A shower? You are going to provide her with the means to wash herself? You sound like an amazing employer.
You are going to be paying her £6 an hour. It's far too low IMO. Even with the perks of water and a shower and a college course she can't attend Hmm

Spaulding · 07/02/2014 19:08

Apologies to derail your thread, OP. I don't have any advice but reading this has made me question what my friend is being paid... just wanted to check as from reading the difference between an au pair and nanny, my friend seems to be both.

She gets paid £130 a week. Lives with a family who pay for all food, bills etc. She is from a non-EU country and speaks perfect English so doesn't attend a language course or any other college course. She works 8am-6pm and is in sole charge of a 1yr old and 2 1/2 yr old. Just wondering if this is the norm? She doesn't do any cleaning but it's recently been mentioned to her that they would like her to start. I think this is more than what her last "family" paid so she has accepted it, but I know she is beginning to wonder if it's too little after being asked to clean. And she will soon be looking after a new baby (with mum on Mat Leave so she'll be at home with her).

lilyaldrin · 07/02/2014 19:10

50 hours a week is normal for a nanny - many live-ins do 60 hours weeks.

A £16k gross annual salary with no rent, bills or food costs to pay is hardly slave labour.

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SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 19:13

Spaulding Paying £130 is cruel. Even low paid jobs like McDonald probably get paid higher.

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Dinnaeknowshitfromclay · 07/02/2014 19:13

:0 Spaulding! Tell your friends employers they shouldn't be paying her at all, after all when does she get to spend it anyway? Seriously £130!

Newname14 · 07/02/2014 19:14

Wow Shock that is all

lilyaldrin · 07/02/2014 19:15

Spaulding - your friend is definitely doing a nanny role, not an au pair, and should be getting minimum wage. There is a get-out clause in the minimum wage about living as part of the family, eating meals together, participating in family activities, which means au pairs are exempt. Generally nannies aren't "part of the family though" and don't eat with their employers or do weekend family activities for example.

Spaulding · 07/02/2014 19:16

She eats dinner with the family. She has weekends off although they do invite her al

Spaulding · 07/02/2014 19:17

Damn phone! They invite her al

Gigondas · 07/02/2014 19:17

Wow- op I am amazed that you aren't overrun with people fighting for this job. All that and water!

And I fucking hope you are paying tax on this salary but somehow I think you won't be given penny pinching tone here.

Spaulding · 07/02/2014 19:17

They invite her along to family things.

Sorry my iPhone is rubbish!

Laquitar · 07/02/2014 19:17

Omg i thought it was a typo and i thought you are getting a bit harsh replies.
Oh you so deserve them then.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 07/02/2014 19:17

'low paid jobs like McDonald'

erm, McDonalds are legally obligated like ALL employers (like you!) to pay minimum wage. your nanny is in a low paid job too just like those on Min wage in McD's!

PrincessPotsie · 07/02/2014 19:18

But IRS she get water spailding?

Unbelievable thread

SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 19:21

TO Chippednailvarnish your reply was not appropriate. If i was a"tightfisted arse" do you think that I would bother to search for a live in nanny!

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YoureBeingASillyBilly · 07/02/2014 19:23

" If i was a"tightfisted arse" do you think that I would bother to search for a live in nanny!"

yes because you know that is the cheapest way to have childcare. childminders and nurseries would cost a shitload more and they charge per child aswell. you know this.

Gigondas · 07/02/2014 19:26

Chipped's point was that yes yabu as you asked if yabu to pay the salary suggested .

She just worded her response robustly.

enriquetheringbearinglizard · 07/02/2014 19:29

Is your home and the job UK based OP?

GoldiChops · 07/02/2014 19:29

Au pairs and nannies are completely different things.

As a nanny I do a 60 hour week and get paid £32000.

I've never come across anyone, ever, paying for water as a live-in job.

My first live-in was £300 a week, the next £350. Net, but obviously now I would never agree to a net salary.

'Some money so she can treat herself' How fucking patronising. You are employing a grown adult, not someone to dole out pocket money to.

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